Trump is making the stupidest most conflated whiny speech of the campaign at Gettysburg.

[nolabear]

Jesus...he's going from "Break up ATT-Time Warner" to "Those women were lying and I'm going to sue them" within a single sentence. Blaming Hillary for violence at his speeches. Rigged-rigged-rigged. At Gettysburg.

It's like seeing someone piss on American history. I'm impressed at how enraged I am. I can imagine what the Republican Party, African Americans, and anyone who's proud of our history are feeling.

[JoeOtterbein]

1. He's going full cocaine fiend !

[stone space]

2. ...

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Ha! or as the Donald often says, "snort, snort" !

[forgotmylogin]

24. Did he blame Hillary for assassinating Lincoln?

[treestar]

5. yeah making things up

about how unfair the system is to him. That's the only way his ego can handle losing.

[KewlKat]

6. this man is scaring me and mine. our passports are ready.....

can he steal our election with the help of mother ru$$ia?

[LakeArenal]

12. He's scaring and scarring me and mine.

[Stevepol]

15. No, but he can lose easily if

all the voting machines in the crirtical states are rigged as they very well could be. I doubt this will happen since it's easier and less noticeable to rig the down ballot results. By "rig" I mean add a certain percentage to the red side, what's called "red tilt." This is what is now built into our electoral system, so much so that the polling companies now "adjust" their exit pollilng to account for this peculiar habit the computer results show of ending up about 3% tilted red.

[Nitram]

16. The man already has a cosy spot reserved on the trash heap of history.

Fear not, Dump is a loser.

[nolabear]

7. That's going to be one hell of a 100 days. He's apparently going to raise the dead.

He's nuts. I know, understatement.

[AmericanActivist]

8. Has he not done enough to insult Abraham Lincoln and the Party of Lincoln! nm

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Supporters dont admire Lincoln for several reasons: here's one non-obvious:

I’m sure the Trump-Lincoln morph was well intentioned but please don’t
sully Trump by tying him to the father of the all-powerful centralized
Federal government.

20 posted on 2016-10-22, 7:56:55 AM by littleharbour

[DK504]

32. Exactly

Oh the irony, it hurtzzzzz. This dude never fails to well, fail.

[underpants]

9. Four scores and seven gropes ago...

[Fast Walker 52]

10. haha! Indeed.

[Fast Walker 52]

11. the only reason I'm not more worried about him is because he is so fucking stupid

otherwise he's just a horrible asshole-- fuck him and the GOP he rode in on.

[Urchin]

26. I used to think

I used to think he was stupid, too, but these last few months have given me reason to change my mind.

I'm sure many people once thought Hitler was a stupid clown, too.

[Fast Walker 52]

28. Thankfully he's not as smart as Hitler

And neither are any of the people in his campaign.

He's a demagogue like Hitler but his political instincts are shit, at least outside of his base.

[Urchin]

37. His political instincts

His political instincts are very strong. I've seen his effect on people I know, and it reminds me very much of what I've read about Hitler's effect on the German people.

Do not underestimate Trump.

As far as his base is concerned, it might be larger than you think.

I recently made a joke about Trump to my family doctor. And he said that believe it or not, he knows a doctor that is voting for Trump.

Later I realized he was probably speaking of himself.

There are many people who are either embarassed to say they support Trump or who won't admit it for fear of compromising their professional image.

I was recently shocked when my older brother told me today that he just contributed money to the Trump campaign--he was originally for Trump, but then soured on Trump because Trump seemed so totally inept.

But as election day nears, it's like my brother is mesmerized by Trump. Watching someone react to Trump in this way, is a lot like watching one of the sci fi movies where the aliens take over the mind of someone you know, making him into a stranger.

Hitler had the same effect on otherwise intelligent Germans.

It's easy for someone who dislikes Trump to find ways to confirm their bias against him and not see him objectively.

Getting elected isn't about getting the facts correct. Getting elected is simply a matter of persuading people to vote for you.

And that last doesn't have to have anything to do with facts--but it does have everything to do with knowing what people want to believe.

[Fast Walker 52]

39. All that may be true, but modern US presidential campaigns are huge, complicated enterprises

that require a ton of organization that Trump has not demonstrated. Nor has he gotten the party support he needs. And to a certain extent, a Democratic win was already "baked in the cake" demographically. Trump has just made it a lot less close.

Trump has no discipline either, as shown by the debates. He really only loves giving speeches in front of crowds and getting attention.

Also, I don't think Hitler went around assaulting women and turning them off.

[Urchin]

42. Don't assume rules concocted from observations of past events

can be relied on to predict future events.

The event in this case, being an election.

[Fast Walker 52]

43. so, what is your point? You think Trump has millions of hidden votes

that aren't showing up in polls?

[Urchin]

44. Possibly

I just would not underestimate Trump's chances.

I hope I'm wrong.

[Fast Walker 52]

40. perhaps the main thing that saves is knowing about Hitler and what to watch for

sadly, lots of people don't see the signs, but I think enough do at this point.

[Urchin]

41. Too many people aren't interested in history

[lovemydog]

13. The world will little note nor long remember what he says.

He'll go down in history as a racist misogynist ignoramus.

[Nitram]

17. Exactly!

And this is how the Republican Party ends, not with a bang but a whimper.

[HipChick]

14. Lincoln must be spinning over in his grave...

[pinboy3niner]

18. Who said we'd never see Donald Trump anywhere near a battlefield?

[Elwood P Dowd]

19. He was fighting in the sex battlefields according to a Howard Stern interview.

Said he deserved the Medal of Honor for surviving all the sex during Vietnam without getting any diseases. I sent that video clip to some fellow vets I know who were drafted like me but support that asshole draft dodger.

[nolabear]

20. They're now referring to it as The Grievanceburg Address.

I approve this message.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

21. Sad when the standard bearer of the party of Abe Lincoln soils his memory.

[elmac]

22. President Lincolns own words

best describe Trumps campaign

"Has it not got down as thin as the homeopathic soup that was made by boiling the shadow of a pigeon that had starved to death?”

[Bernardo de La Paz]

25. Trump supporter delusions: Trump's Contract on the American Voter

“On November Eighth, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our country, secure our communities, and honesty to our government,” Trump says. “This is my pledge to you and if we follow these steps we will once more have a government of, by and for the people and importantly we will make America great again. Believe me.”

Here is the list of the “Contract with the American Voter” policies detailed by Trump:

2. Institute a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public safety, and public health)

3. Require for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.

9. Direct Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator.

11. Lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars’ worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.

13. Cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix America’s water and environmental infrastructure.

14. Cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama.

15. Begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

16. Cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities.

17. Begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won’t take them back.

23. Work with Congress on a Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA

25. Work with Congress on an End Illegal Immigration Act. Fully-funds the construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country Mexico will be reimbursing the United States for the full cost of such wall;

26. Work with Congress on a Restoring Community Safety Act.Reduces surging crime, drugs and violence by creating a Task Force On Violent Crime;

27. Work with Congress on a Restoring National Security Act.Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment;

{... 15 more items ...}

His supporters continue to be deeply deluded:

If you missed this live you missed history. Powerful.

TRUMP LANDSLIDE COMING...
1 posted on 2016-10-22, 3:49:34 PM by Rockitz

[jmowreader]

38. 23. Provide corporate welfare to the health insurance industry

This bears repeating: Being able to purchase health insurance across state lines also means the insurance companies can sell it across state lines - which means the microsecond The Donald, or some other Republican, approves the sale of health insurance across state lines the entire health insurance industry is going to pack their shit and haul ass straight to the state with the highest health insurance rates and the skimpiest plan requirements, and that is the insurance the entire country will get whether they want it or not.

These dipshits think if the GOP allows people to buy insurance across state lines they can all buy Hawaii's insurance, the least-expensive insurance in America. Well, there are many reasons Hawaiian health insurance is so cheap: they have better weather than other states, they have a diet rich in produce, they spend a lot of time outside, they know what the fuck sunscreen is, they don't use very much coal and cigarettes are outrageously expensive. Contrast that with West Virginia, where it's colder than a well-digger's ass even on the nicest days, pellagra is a childhood disease, coal is both burned and mined, and cigarettes are practically a birthright.

If Trump gets his way, the health insurers in Hawaii will go broke quick if they have to sell insurance to people who don't live in Hawaii. However, the insurers in West Virginia will make out like bandits if they get to sell policies to Hawaiians.

[jcgoldie]

27. what a terrible candidate

They try to schedule a positive speech about what he will do in his first 100 days to change the subject from what a disaster he is and he grabs all the headlines saying he will sue all the women who accused him of sexual assault. Talk about trampling all over your own message. Good grief!

[Cracklin Charlie]

30. He's the best!

The absolute best worst candidate in Republican history!

[Cracklin Charlie]

29. "Pissing on American history"

I can barely say Gettysburg without getting choked up on all the history.

He really is a piece of crap.

[nolabear]

33. Your statement of the situation is simplistic.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-okeefe-sting-operation_us_580a5ee1e4b000d0b1568093

This is HuffPo but it's the quickest find. And I said Hillary. Possibly not clear.

One thing to note as a new poster; most of us have been around for years and you're walking into the middle of years-long existing conversations. Sometimes there's shorthand because there's widespread background and sometimes we are simply grousing to one another about things that are connected throughout the campaign.

I'm not nearly the conspiracy theorist you are but I don't disbelieve the idea that there have been some independent attempts at covert operations. I don't think it's pervasive; considering how beautifully coordinated the Clinton campaign is, the return for event violence is low. "Mentally ill people" are not exactly high reliability, nor is the term comprehensible. I wouldn't give O'Keefe's credibility a thought. He's proven himself without scruples many times.

[Coyotl]

34. New hash tag to pass along reflections: #TrumpGettysburgAddress

#TrumpGettysburgAddress -- trending LOL

#TrumpGettysburgAddress

Shaindel Beers ☮ ‏@shaindelr 2 hours ago
#TrumpGettysburgAddress "Four whores and seven bankruptcies ago. I set forth to be tremendous. Big league."

[ThoughtCriminal]

35. This is how we know the dead cannot rise from their graves

Because if it was possible, this surely would have happened here.

[smirkymonkey]

36. I really cannot believe this guy is still in the race.

He is such a major train wreck.