After This Election, Will Republicans Be More or Less Racist/Sexist?

[TomCADem]

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On the one hand, if Trump loses by a lot, you would think that Republicans will want to act as though Trump was not representative of what Republicans stand for, and distance themselves or at least try to tone down some of the over top racist and sexist rhetoric.

On the other hand, if Trump manages to keep it somewhat close so it is not a total blow out, Republicans might be tempted to go the racist and sexist route thinking that minorities and young people do not vote, so if you could go Trump-lite, and be racist and sexist, but not get caught bragging about grabbing women by the genitals, then you stand a chance of winning. Put another way, if you promise to unleash hell on immigrants, minorities, abortion providers, etc., and make them the scapegoat for the world ills, then you have the inside track in the primaries, and you just need to be a little more sane during the general election to win.

Frankly, since Trump is not likely to go away, and will try to blame his loss on not so crazy Republicans who did not fully support him, I think establishment Republicans will lose in the 2018 primaries, and in a midterm year, we could get a much more racist version of the 2010 Tea Party in 2018 if the election is somewhat close.

[Koinos]

1. More racist and more sexist.

Their treatment of Obama was horrific. Their treatment of Hillary will be worse. Democrats need government on their side, and that means both the House and the Senate.

[uponit7771]

21. +1

[Doreen]

2. More sexist then racist.

At least Obama has a penis. Trump thinks women are useless and he will get that across to all of his little followers as he sues those women. If he is elected then at some point rape of a female will be even easier to get away with than it already is. I may sound nuts talking like that but he is the type of person who will make sure the lawyers and judges that get those cases believe women are nothing but objects for men.

[Doodley]

3. The Republican Party will splinter - the Trumpsters forming a new party.

Therefore, Republican Party will be less bigoted.

[Rocknrule]

4. They're probably getting ready to nominate David Duke in 2020 already

[raising2moredems]

5. More

The election of 2020 will determine whether the "r" party goes the way of the Whigs or decides to join the 21st century. The RNC did an honest assessment (postmortem) after the 2012 election. Still too many who are of the mindset that the "party" did not have a "true" conservative" candidate. And until that mindset changes or dies off, the party continues to be on life support.

[jcgoldie]

6. They were both before Trump

And will continue to be after... Trump isn't accident he's just a nitwit who says explicitly what the GOP has been dogwhistling for decades.

[doc03]

7. The ones I know will double down and find someone even crazier than

Trump

[COLGATE4]

8. More.

[GulfCoast66]

9. They will be worse, but less powerful

They finally had a chance to choose the conservative they always said would take them to the promise land. He was there for the taking in Ted Cruz...and the chose the Racist instead. And with that act the party will be destroyed as the demographics change. Had they chosen Cruz he might have actually won and would have kept it somewhat competitive. But they did not.

So they will splinter. The racist will form a dangerous but in the end dying rump party. What is left along with, eventually, the most conservative of the democrats in some states will regenerate as the new conservatives who will fill the roll they did from 45-94. Having some power to slow the progressive movement, but only so much.

If I am wrong, and I may well be, the stock up on rice and beans!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

10. More

They like to double down on stupid

[Dem2]

11. If he won, less

If he loses, more.

I swear they just do this horrible stuff just because they know if pisses liberals off.

[Trust Buster]

12. Like their 2012 post mortem, they will conclude that they need to stop offending women and

minorities. Just to ignore it and continue full steam ahead.

[TomCADem]

17. The Issue Is What The GOP Does to Build Its Base

The 2012 Post-Mortem describes how to sell Republicans in a general election, but the real key is who is the base of the Republican party. If the most active Republicans are predominantly older white males, than how can you pull off outreach outside of that cohort?

I think what Republican candidates have realized is that it so much easier to get the nomination by going anti-immigrant and racist in the primaries. It is a bigger winner than low taxes and pandering to evangelicals. Romney did in 2012 when he proposed self-deportation and attacked everyone else as supporting amnesty. Trump just took it to another level.

That being said what happens if there is a huge gap between the primary message and the general election message? What gives? At some point, if Republicans are simply not being elected, then the base itself will start to shrink, which is what has happened in California.

[DonCoquixote]

14. They will try to do what the democrats did

The Democrats after 1968 and Chicago were labeled the hippie commie party, so they sought to make someone who would appear normal, someone who was as harsh of the left as the right. Enter the Clintons. The Gop realizes that if they can get somone to insult the far right, then they can pull this middle of the road stuff too. There is a problem though, unlike we Democrats that will play the long game, their base is used to instant gratification and NOW!

[herding cats]

15. I think legitimizing their fringe publicly in 2008 (Palin) was the cementing of this.

Not the beginning, but the setting of it in stone which they couldn't distance themselves from. Then the full on birther (racist) movement, not to mention their anti women's rights, anti immigrant and anti LGBQT rights stances since then show this is their new normal. Granted, some in their party know it's suicide, but it's in the planks of their platform, except for the racist part, which is in their blood.

They have decades of work to do to undo this damage. Damage which they've been working on since before I was born. It isn't going to happen in a single election cycle. This is a long created problem for them which will take as long to attempt to repair. If that's their choice.

[Binkie The Clown]

16. They'll get worse and worse, appealing to a smaller and smaller base, until...

the party itself just evaporates.

(Well, I can hope, can't I?)

[dalton99]

18. More and worse. The crazies will bully the "moderates" into submission

[uponit7771]

22. +1, there's enough of the crazies to make a difference in the party who tRump has now normalized

[Kablooie]

19. Pandora's box has been opened and the demons won't be led back inside again.

Racism, sexism and flat, crude insults will be standard in politics now.

To have a presidential debate where one candidate exclaims the other is lying, nasty, a criminal and should be in jail refutes all decorum that has been essential in upper level politics up to now.

It started with that idiot calling out "You lie!" in Congress and it's been getting worse continuously.

No, the crude, red, raw underbelly of our darkest desires will be on display in American politics from now on by those that live their lives wallowing in ugly hatred and fear.

[0rganism]

20. more of both, i'd expect, but there will be a lot less of them

the racist/sexist/xenophobe takeover of the Republican party has left a lot of Republicans out in the cold. i expect them to wander the political wilderness for a few years, before the "moderates" join the Democratic party and the less-racist/sexist/xenophobic hardliners join or form other fringe parties. it takes a little while for reality to sink in, probably the 2020 primaries will definitively show these new political orphans that the Republican party has left them hanging again.

[edbermac]

23. Racist:same - Sexist:more

[GOLGO 13]

24. Even more racist hopefully.