2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Why is Trump rooting against U.S. troops in Mosul? "
Hillary Clinton @HillaryClinton
Good question.
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For months, Donald Trump has been promising to be tough on the Islamic State and has criticized the Obama administration for not taking the fight to the terrorists. Now that the battle of Mosul is underway, Trump has become a cheerleader for the failure of the mission while promoting a conspiracy theory that its all about him.
On Sunday, Trump tweeted that the ongoing Iraqi-led offensive against the Islamic States stronghold in Mosul was failing:
The attack on Mosul is turning out to be a total disaster. We gave them months of notice. U.S. is looking so dumb. VOTE TRUMP and WIN AGAIN!
Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 23, 2016
Monday morning, in an interview with Pat Robertson on The 700 Club, Trump doubled down on his prediction that the U.S. and allied coalition in Mosul will fail. He repeated his claim that tens of thousands of Iraqi, Kurdish and allied forces should have done a sneak attack, on Mosul, which is obviously impossible given the size of the mission and the nature of the battlefield there.
You see whats going on. You see how badly that fight is going, Trump said. If you want to go into Mosul, you dont tell people for four months. Now they are having a hard time and they are really dug in, and the people that we wanted, the leaders of ISIS, are gone.
Trumps Sunday tweet and Monday comments follow a string of incorrect statements by the GOP candidate about whats happening on the ground in Mosul, several of which were made at last weeks presidential debate.
On the campaign trail, Trump has said repeatedly that the Obama administration began the assault on Mosul because Obama wanted to show what a tough guy he is before the election, and because the administration wanted to help Hillary Clintons candidacy. Thats clearly erroneous because the mission is Iraqi-led and the Iraqi government controlled the timing.
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At the last presidential debate, Trump says the Iraqi army is attempting to regain control over the city Mosul to help Clinton's chances in the Nov. 8 election
But Trumps latest claims, that the mission in Mosul is a total disaster, is not just wrong; he is actually rooting for the failure of a battle where hundreds of U.S. troops are in harms way and where a U.S. soldier gave his life only days ago.
Trumps statements on how he would combat the Islamic State have been all over the map. At various times he has said his plans are secret, endorsed the torture of suspected terrorists, pledged to kill their families and promised to take the oil, which makes no sense at all. The one consistent Trump claim is that he would knock the hell out of ISIS. Now he is criticizing the anti-Islamic State coalition for doing just that.
The battle in Mosul is messy, progress is slow, and the fighting will continue for weeks at least, but is it not a total disaster and no American leader should push that line. Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter visited the nearby city of Irbil over the weekend and spoke in support of the U.S. soldiers participating in the mission.
Let me begin by saying what magnificent work our troops are doing here. I had a chance to talk with them about their work, tell them of our support for their work here. I cant describe all of that, but it was all done with the excellence you would expect of our forces and this is a mission that is necessary to protect our people, Carter said. So there are people out here taking risks every day, but theyre doing that because its necessary to defend our country.
Thats how a leader speaks about an ongoing operation. Predicting failure of U.S. forces in battle is not only defeatist and counterproductive, its akin to trumpeting the propaganda line of the Islamic State itself. In short, its the opposite of what someone who wants to be commander in chief should do.
Update: Hillary Clinton called out Trumps Mosul tweet at a Monday rally in New Hampshire:
This is a guy who says he knows more about ISIS than the generals. I dont think so, she said. Hes basically declaring defeat before the battle has even started. He proving to the world what it means to have an unqualified commander in chief. Its not only wrong, its dangerous.
prarie deem
(115 posts)if a Democrat said something like this. The right wing would be howling at moon about how they did not support the troops and were destroying moral. God he is a moron.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)they'd likely have been unanimously censured in the House or Senate at the very least, and also had to have made a tearful apology to show that they don't hate America.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)IMO he cares about nothing and no one except how they can benefit him. And yes, that includes the kids. He likes them a lot because they are extensions of himself and make him look good.
He would sell us lock stock and barrel to anyone if he thought it would bring him power, money or fame.
Chemisse
(30,808 posts)That telling the world what a 'hard time' the troops were having is a dangerous signal to send to the enemy.
enid602
(8,613 posts)Another question: why has US media only recently started to report Allied victories in Iraq? They sure spent plenty of time criticizing BHO's plans when he first unveiled them. Mosul is the LAST battle of this war. Where were the media when the Allies toik back Ramadi, Fallujah, Tikrit and so many others?
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)The Allied advance probably qualifies as one of Obama's more brilliant accomplishments, but has been ignored.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)If he said such things about a Russian battle in progress?