2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat should our first comments be to
Known Trump supporters on Nov. 9th?
Wounded Bear
(58,626 posts)apcalc
(4,463 posts)However, I will choose to say nothing.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)luxury properties and convert it to a women's center.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Let 'em go back to their secured caves and watch FoxNews until Trump TV is available.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)The GOP deserves to die.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)Weeping into my champagne glass?
cilla4progress
(24,724 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)I'm serious. I see no percentage in shaming, dismissing and enraging a pretty big segment of the population who are angry and scared to death. I'm not saying we welcome the bile but that we offer hope mixed with a confident guiding hand. I honestly want peoples' lives to improve, because if ever we've needed an era of cooperation to lift this country up, it's now.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)a major percentage of that "big segment" who are "angry andd scared to death" are angry and scared to death of a pretty large segment of this population, AA's, most minorities and south of the border people looking for and willing to work for a better life, and they hate the woman I hope will be POTUS. Mainly because she is a woman and not white male as they have made clear with our present POTUS for the last 7+ years.
While I share your desire for all beings of the human race to have hope and confidence of a better life no matter where they live, those you want to try to lift up will only do it while standing on the backs and stomping 'others' into the dirt because of the color of their skin, their gender, place of birth and sexual orientation.
I'm willing to cooperate. Are they?
nolabear
(41,959 posts)What's the alternative? As I said (I think) we can't let people do harm. We make and keep laws, we protect people and work toward the world we say we aspire to, which is a good one for everyone, not just those we agree with. But we have to also try to understand that people who are in pain would rather be angry than feel despair. It's a perverted form of hope but it's hope. And they're about to lose it. We can either extend a hand to help them find pride and work, and most important help their children become productive and invested in the country that we are inevitably becoming, or we can keep them isolated by shame and clannish pride and they will suffer and lash out forever.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)temperment is my stumbling block with these hateful people. We shall see.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)My people are nuts. And they're good people in so many ways. And DAAAAAMN they're deluded in so many.
I'm recommending the book Hillbilly Elegy to everybody these days. It's the best memoir about being the first one to go to college and become successful in a family that are Trump supporter types I've ever seen. It captures the desperation, the clannish love for one another and distrust of others, the inability to thrive in the most basic of ways but the willingness to go an incredible distance for those they love, and the mixed pride and mistrust of the kid who left home and became one of "them." He tells it with affection and sorrow. He wants their lives to be better, in spite of themselves. So do I.
LeftInTX
(25,208 posts)The only Trump supporters I know are a few at the senior center. Most of us there are supporting Hillary. These are just conservatives and not raving lunatics.
Otherwise, I don't know any Trump supporters.
semby2
(246 posts)I'm not going to say anything to conservative coworkers (who are always very loud asses spouting propaganda during every campaign).
But if they say something I'll be sure to have some great comebacks!
FSogol
(45,468 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Neither Trump or his supporters have a role to play in such a historic event.
It will be our day.
Bucky
(53,986 posts)"She's from Kenya too"[/blockquote6]
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)oasis
(49,365 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)That's what I'll be doing.
peggysue2
(10,826 posts)that was said to me (quite smugly) after the 2000 SCOTUS-decided election:
Get Over it!
pkdu
(3,977 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Uggh.
Rob_Jacobson23
(3 posts)I think this is a perfect comment for the Trumpsters, who will be in deep mourning on the 9th. It's simple, and to the point.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)csziggy
(34,135 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Trump has exploited anger and encouraged division. Mockery can only deepen the divide, not bridge it.
Bobcat
(246 posts)nt
Glamrock
(11,794 posts)Man, the supreme court was the golden ring in this election and you guys handed it to the dems on a silver platter! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)They didn't sign up for that shit. They're seeing their party in an entirely different light now.
It's not over, yet.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Muhahahahahahaha. Rubbing hands together and laughing optional.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)From the movie the Exorcist.
I always knew that line would come in handy. I just didn't know where.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)were Trump to win.
Which means we can be as mean, petty, arrogant, hateful, rub their faces in it as we want.
They need to fully understand the bit about Do Unto Others.