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BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:28 AM Oct 2016

1982 RNC CONSENT DECREE against voter suppression. If Trumpettes violate it, the Decree will

be extended another EIGHT years (while it's due to sunset in December 2017).

The RNC has tried to get rid of it back in 2009, but a Federal Judge in New Jersey, Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, didn't find any evidence that Republicans have learned their lesson, and kept the Decree in place.

[center]1982 RNC CONSENT DECREE:[/center]
[center]Republican observers at polling places:[/center]
1. May not question voters about their credentials
2. May not impede or delay voters by asking for identification
3. May not videotape, photograph, or otherwise make visual records of voters or their vehicles
4. May not handout any literature outlining the fact that voter fraud is a crime or detailing the penalties under any state or federal statute for impermissibly casting a ballot

Rachel Maddow covered this over a period of two days. I never knew anything like this existed, but it goes to show that the DNC had to SUE the RNC for voter suppression violations in the early 1980's, and if Trump successfully riles up his Trumpsters to engage in this ant-democratic behavior at the polls, the Consent Decree imposed on Republicans will be extended another EIGHT YEARS.

Obviously, the RNC are terrified that will happen.

Trumpsters - who are as ignorant about this legal rule as I was - might engage in voter suppression tactics because Don-the-Con has been telling them to. If that happens, the Decree will be extended another 8 years.

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1982 RNC CONSENT DECREE against voter suppression. If Trumpettes violate it, the Decree will (Original Post) BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 OP
But, DK504 Oct 2016 #1
DK504, This is not the same as the thing the Supreme Court overrode ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #8
If they have, if there is permissable proof, you can bet it's been recorded for when the Decree BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #12
Thank you for this, BlueCali! Cha Oct 2016 #2
You're very welcome, Cha! I thought it would be helpful to fellow DUers who weren't aware of this BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #9
Here is the text in a PDF file mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #3
If my poll was in city, not suburb, I'd take copy also. Panich52 Oct 2016 #7
Thanks for the link to the filed Decree, mothra1orbit. It's a good idea to spread this widely via BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #11
So if the Trumpsters try to intimidate voters DURHAM D Oct 2016 #4
The basis of racism is fear jcgoldie Oct 2016 #6
These rules shouldn't run out at all Hav Oct 2016 #5
I'm certain the DoJ is aware of this and is watching closely now that Don-the-Con has announced to BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #10
AA's who insist the Republican Party is the way to go, should take note. oasis Oct 2016 #13
Say Hello to 8 more years of the Consent Decree Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #15
If we see someone violate this, what should we do? Bradical79 Oct 2016 #16
Is the only penalty for violation a time extension? Hugin Oct 2016 #17
I suppose posting armed local police officers in the polling places is still OK in NJ... Squaredeal Oct 2016 #18
I'd be encouraging them to violate as most are unaware. Chicago1980 Oct 2016 #19
k and r for visibility niyad Oct 2016 #20
The Consent Decree binds the RNC, not necessarily Trump's campaign onenote Oct 2016 #21
Well, Trump did encourage them to do it. Ligyron Oct 2016 #22

DK504

(3,847 posts)
1. But,
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:39 AM
Oct 2016

but, but the rethugs have done all of that ever single election and pushed for stricter voting laws and have created voter supression nationwide.

I don't get it. And how did the Supreme Court over ride this decree.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
8. DK504, This is not the same as the thing the Supreme Court overrode
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:52 AM
Oct 2016

What was overridden was a provision of the voting rights act that originally decreed states (mostly deep south states) that had historically engaged in suppressive tactics (poll taxes and the like) had to get permission from the feds if they wanted to change their laws. So, that being overridden, they can now change their laws, which (no surprise) they've been doing.

This consent decree is a totally different thing.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. If they have, if there is permissable proof, you can bet it's been recorded for when the Decree
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:05 AM
Oct 2016

is about to expire in December 2017, and the DNC will bring it to the judge's attention.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
2. Thank you for this, BlueCali!
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:43 AM
Oct 2016

I saw Rachel's report on this earlier and was mesmerized and fascinated!

How stupid is drumpf to send his flunkies out to break the law and throw another Consent Decree on the gop that will pile on 8 more years after Dec 1, 2017!

Shown on Rachel's show..

WARNING
THIS AREA IS BEING PATROLLED BY THE
NATIONAL BALLOT
SECURITY TASK FORCE
IT IS A CRIME TO FALSIFY A BALLOT OR TO
VIOLATE ELECTION LAWS
1. IF YOU ARE REGISTERED YOU CANNOT VOTE
2. YOU MUST VOTE IN YOUR OWN NAME.
3. YOU MAY ONLY VOTE ONE TIME
$1,000 Reward for information
leading to arrest and conviction
of person violating New Jersey
election law. Call 800-402-4301.
HONEST VOTE 1981

(Kean election)

https://italkyoubored.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/roger-stone-pretty-reckless-is-going-straight-to-hell-part-four/

I didn't know this..

The RNC has tried to get rid of it back in 2009, but a Federal Judge in New Jersey, Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, didn't find any evidence that Republicans have learned their lesson, and kept the Decree in place.

Here's something else..

Supreme Court denies RNC bid to end voter fraud consent decree

January 14, 2013|By David G. Savage

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/news/la-pn-supreme-court-rnc-voter-fraud-20130114

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. You're very welcome, Cha! I thought it would be helpful to fellow DUers who weren't aware of this
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
Oct 2016

Decree.

We need to spread this widely, via all our social media, so that others can be aware that Don-the-Con's attempt to suppress the votes in largely PoC communities and districts is illegal and it will extend the Decree another 8 years!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
11. Thanks for the link to the filed Decree, mothra1orbit. It's a good idea to spread this widely via
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:04 AM
Oct 2016

your (our) social media for those who don't know this exists.

I was surprised that neither President Obama nor Hillary Clinton spoke of this, but I'm assuming here that they hope Trumpsters will violate the Decree so that they can extend it another eight years.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
4. So if the Trumpsters try to intimidate voters
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:44 AM
Oct 2016

in Chicago can the Governor call out the National Guard?

Can the President send troops to the various areas where this is likely to happen?



jcgoldie

(11,623 posts)
6. The basis of racism is fear
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:49 AM
Oct 2016

I can't see these scared rednecks actually loading up the truck and going to minority majority districts to intimidate voters. I'm guessing it sounds like a great idea at the Trump klan rallies but on November 8th they'll all have something better to do that day.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. These rules shouldn't run out at all
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 10:47 AM
Oct 2016

It's rather frightening that these rules will run out soon. They sound sensible and necessary to me (especially the first 3 rules). Members of the parties should not question any voters at all or make it in any way harder for them to vote. If credentials need to be checked, it should be the job of election officials at the polling places and not some Trump goons who pick out their victims by skin colour.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. I'm certain the DoJ is aware of this and is watching closely now that Don-the-Con has announced to
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:02 AM
Oct 2016

his rabid base to go out and "watch" polls - oddly enough, only in districts with large swaths of people of color (Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.).

Blue Idaho

(5,044 posts)
15. Say Hello to 8 more years of the Consent Decree
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:16 AM
Oct 2016

There is not a chance in the world that Trump supporters can respect the existing Decree.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
16. If we see someone violate this, what should we do?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:21 AM
Oct 2016

And what are the consequences for the individual violating the decree?

Hugin

(33,104 posts)
17. Is the only penalty for violation a time extension?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:25 AM
Oct 2016

How is that a threat if nobody has even heard of this decree until now? What about something with some real teeth like reviving the Civil Rights Act that the Republicans have been steadily diluting since it was passed in 1964.

Squaredeal

(395 posts)
18. I suppose posting armed local police officers in the polling places is still OK in NJ...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 12:02 PM
Oct 2016

like my Republican-controlled south-Jersey town has done in the past to discourage minorities from coming out to vote, whenever the projected election results are close.

onenote

(42,660 posts)
21. The Consent Decree binds the RNC, not necessarily Trump's campaign
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:47 PM
Oct 2016

Some collusion or action by Trump as an agent of the RNC would have to be shown, I believe.

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