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fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 07:41 PM Oct 2016

Oregon standoff: All defendants found not guilty

Update: The jury reported to the court Thursday afternoon that it has reached consensus on all but one charge. The jury sent a note to the judge that members have "exhausted all discussion" and can't come to an agreement, and that "further deliberation would not help."


Deliberations started anew Thursday morning after the federal judge in the conspiracy trial against Ammon Bundy and six co-defendants welcomed a new juror and told the reconstructed 12-member jury to "disregard entirely'' past discussions and begin fresh.

"Starting over may seem frustrating,'' U.S. District Judge Anna J. Brown told the jurors in court. "Do not let it discourage you.''

Brown directed the jurors not to speculate or discuss the reasons why they'd been reconfigured, with Juror 11 replaced by Juror 18. The judge dismissed Juror 11 on Wednesday, a day after a fellow juror questioned his impartiality in a note to the court, submitted on the third day of deliberations.

"That's happened. That's passed,'' Brown said.

She urged the group to start all over, "as if the previous deliberations have never occurred.''

The judge also reminded the group that unanimous rulings are required for a verdict, as to each count in the case.

Ammon Bundy and six-co-defendants are charged with conspiring to impede federal employees at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge through intimidation, threat or force stemming from the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Four of the seven defendants are charged with possessing guns in a federal facility. Two of the defendants each face an additional charge of theft of government property.

http://www.oregonlive.com/articles/19554190/judge_welcomes_new_juror_direc.amp

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Oregon standoff: All defendants found not guilty (Original Post) fun n serious Oct 2016 OP
Are ANY charges still up for deilberation? WillyBrandt Oct 2016 #1
jury nullification? BlueStateLib Oct 2016 #2
They have got to be the biggest idiots on the planet rockfordfile Oct 2016 #3
i think the "conspiracy to impede" charge turned out to be prosecutorial overreach 0rganism Oct 2016 #4
What happened to destruction of sacred artifacts and all that stuff? zonkers Oct 2016 #5
They say the prosecutor over charged... fun n serious Oct 2016 #7
I guess that means if you go for the more serious charge, you forgo the simpler ones? What about zonkers Oct 2016 #8
I'm so upset over this. fun n serious Oct 2016 #6
This is like a goddamned gut punch Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #9
A nice invitation to more cretins with guns to strike BSdetect Oct 2016 #10
WTF? This is crazy! Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #11

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
3. They have got to be the biggest idiots on the planet
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:11 PM
Oct 2016

These far right idiots are really the lowlife of our country.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
4. i think the "conspiracy to impede" charge turned out to be prosecutorial overreach
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:32 PM
Oct 2016

if they'd gone with criminal trespass, vandalism, and littering charges, there would have been a much better chance of a conviction

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
8. I guess that means if you go for the more serious charge, you forgo the simpler ones? What about
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:41 PM
Oct 2016

the cost of the clean up? No need to answer.

I am just incensed. Is this a mandate for jackasses to do dumb crap?

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
11. WTF? This is crazy!
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 08:46 PM
Oct 2016

So I guess all those whacked out militia members can go ahead and restart the sagebrush rebellion and try and recapture all the BLM land in the west? What the hell...

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