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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:56 AM Oct 2016

Trump getting blown out in the Philadelphia suburbs, as Pennsylvania drifts out of reach

By James Hohmann October 28 at 7:17 AM

UPPER DUBLIN, Pa.--Donald Trump’s narrowing path to the presidency depends on winning Pennsylvania. One of his advisers was quoted just yesterday saying that he will be “cooked” if he cannot prevail in the Keystone State.

The GOP nominee is counting on Rust Belt voters in western Pennsylvania, who have traditionally voted Democratic but been battered by deindustrialization, to come out in droves for him. He needs enough to offset Hillary Clinton’s huge advantages in the urban areas of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. But that’s not enough. He also needs to turn in a respectable showing in the vote-rich suburban areas outside Philly.

Two days of interviews in the so-called “collar counties” around the City of Brotherly Love reveal profound problems for Trump in this area, even as he visited for a rally. I canvassed two dozen voters at three different sports bars – before, during and after the Eagles game last Sunday – in places where there should be pockets of Trump support. Most of the people watching football were white men, a good demographic for Trump. But they were also college educated and had white-collar jobs, not so good demographics for him.

The experience buttressed the findings of a recent Bloomberg poll that found Clinton carrying these suburban counties with a 28-point advantage over Trump. That’s an 18-point improvement on Obama’s winning margin against Mitt Romney in 2012, when the Republican did not meaningfully contest the state until the final days. The Democratic nominee is carrying almost every single group in this area.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/10/28/daily-202-trump-getting-blown-out-in-the-philadelphia-suburbs-as-pennsylvania-drifts-out-of-reach/58129aace9b69b640f54c6be/?wpisrc=nl_daily202&wpmm=1

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Trump getting blown out in the Philadelphia suburbs, as Pennsylvania drifts out of reach (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2016 OP
Thank you PA.. Don! Cha Oct 2016 #2
I live 5 minutes from this bar thejoker123 Oct 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author bora13 Oct 2016 #4
Trump might like that headline GusBob Oct 2016 #5
Good read but jcgoldie Oct 2016 #6
Nor is driving the roads around Wayne/Villanova. However, GoneOffShore Oct 2016 #7
Pennsylvanians are fed up with misogyny bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #8
Nobody "is getting blown out" in PA as there's no early voting there geek tragedy Oct 2016 #9
K & R Coyotl Oct 2016 #10
Yes he is Patiod Oct 2016 #11
the republicans needed a perfect candidate in order to win pennsylvania Tom Rivers Oct 2016 #12
 

thejoker123

(279 posts)
3. I live 5 minutes from this bar
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 08:49 AM
Oct 2016

Lived here my whole life. REALLY hard to believe he couldn't find trump supporters amongst Eagles fans. This a demo created for trump. Mostly blue collar white males, not very bright, "old school" types, lots of racism and sexism.

Although this bar is in a wealthier suburb. Still, my guess is there were trump supporters there who just were too embarrassed to say so.

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GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
7. Nor is driving the roads around Wayne/Villanova. However,
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

I've been out that way a lot over the past two weeks and five Clinton-Kaine signs to every one TrumPutin sign.

And the houses out there are in the $1M plus range.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
8. Pennsylvanians are fed up with misogyny
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:10 AM
Oct 2016

Before Trump's motherlode, there was the AG's outing of
the email scandal, which sort of was contained within the
state's judiciary

Parallel infections of unknown origin, but no one really knows
how widely the emails circulated outside the official records

Email has proven a difficult thing to contain within geographic
or occupational boundaries

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
11. Yes he is
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 04:24 PM
Oct 2016

1. Why is the dateline in my little home town? Large Jewish demographic - lots of enthusiastic and active Democratic voters - the township has been bright blue for quite a while. Other areas nearby - if those go blue, then THAT would be telling.

2. Why are they polling places at my old local, the Ye Olde, right outside Conshohocken? (Home of delicious and plentiful roast beef sandwiches in my old neighborhood?) It's making me hungry.

Our neck of the woods normally gets the national spotlight only once every 4 years, but I'm guessing that may dim as the entire Philadelphia suburbs continue to grow their Democratic numbers.

(Oh, and I've noticed a LOT of "orphan" signs for the Republican downballot candidates in our area - sitting all alone, with no hint of who the property owner supports for President.)

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
12. the republicans needed a perfect candidate in order to win pennsylvania
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 05:03 PM
Oct 2016

and they just don't have it. voter intimidation/suppression is the only way they have a chance and even then i'm skepical.

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