Michael Moore finally realizes his life's true dream, becomes official "Useful Idiot for Trump"

[BobbyDrake]

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/27/donald-trump-praises-michael-moore-for-predicting-a-hillary-clinton-loss/

Donald Trump praises Michael Moore for predicting a Hillary Clinton loss

If this is Moore "helping," how do we get someone to tell him "Thanks, but no thanks" for his ass-backwards efforts?

And before someone brings up the "it was just reverse psychology to motivate people" defense, I'd just like to point out that Michael Moore is... drum roll... NOT a psychologist. And his comments seem more designed to demoralize Democrats than motivate them.

[Funtatlaguy]

1. Moore at his core......

Very smart, creative, heart in right place.
But, he is very negative and pessimistic. Glass half empty type.
He may just be trying to prepare himself, and others, for the worst should it happen.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

48. Glass half empty.

I'm not a fan of Tweety, but that's how he described Moore (and Donahue) a little after 1:20 here:

Michael Moore
Negative Nancy
Debbie Downer

[Coyotl]

2. Brilliant new film, must SEE, awesome defense of Hillary, incredibly smart, witty, really great

Don't you wish you could make that kind of contribution to the campaign?

[PJMcK]

3. Is Michael Moore really a Democrat?

All he seems to do is bash our side. What gives?

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

4. You obviously didn't watch Michael Moore in Trumpland if you think that

I watched it...and the man rushed to make a film to make a compelling case for voting FOR Hillary Clinton.

I am so sick of reading this same complaint every morning on this forum. Watch the movie.

[stopbush]

34. 99.999% of Americans are NOT ever going to see Trumpland.

They go by what they hear in the media, mostly from FauxNews and CNN, who are known to fabricate anti-Hillary memes with regularity. What they will hear is that Moore is supporting Trump and that he thinks he will win. It doesn't matter what the truth is.

[kristopher]

40. So spreading Trumpian disinformation memes is the way to address lack of viewership?

That's a whacked out approach, IMO.

Mikey is not the problem here.

[Joe941]

5. I think this will help Hillary.

[The Polack MSgt]

6. I never thought I'd have to Snopes bomb a post at DU

http://www.snopes.com/michael-moore-endorsed-donald-trump/

Aren't we the side that knows about context? I am not surprised that Trump looked at a context free excerpt and pushed it to his followers as some kind of "support".

Nobody on their side will look past the lead paragraph of any article - but damn, people here should stop and look...

[Hortensis]

10. Thanks for saving me a google, Polack MSgt.

[BobbyDrake]

12. Moore made a dumb statement that could easily be taken OUT of context.

That's the crux of my complaint with him. He and other Debbie Downers should know when to STFU, before they do damage by saying things that the opposition can utilize this way.

But attention seekers like Moore don't think about that stuff. All he cares about is lining up the next interview, which means saying something ridiculous to attract media outlets.

Moore is a lot more like Trump than he probably believes himself to be, in that regard.

[The Polack MSgt]

20. How he chose to frame his point made it easy

For other's to edit it to be something it wasn't. That is true

But so did Shirley Sherrod.

It's a fairly common construct:

1.This is why something is happening/has happened
2. Examples from my own experience
3. This is why we should change course/reexamine
4. Examples from shared experience.
5 Conclusion

I don't want to seem argumentative, but you seem to be blaming Michael Moore for talking like Michael Moore - because it made it easy for Trump to be dishonest.

[Jakes Progress]

21. This is not the crux of your complaint.

Your beef with Moore is not based on fact or ideas or work. Solely the product of right wing produced huff.

You claim all kinds of things about Mr. Moore's motives and beliefs. Do you know him? Have you spent time talking with him? Have you ever seen one of his movies?

Hmmm.

[PasadenaTrudy]

13. Thank you!

I really wonder about this site sometimes.

[molova]

42. Snopes does not deal with prediction

It dealt with whether Moore endorsed Trump or not.
Moore predicted a Trump victory.

[The Polack MSgt]

47. It also provided a transcript of the remarks that led to the claim...

being dealt with.

The same remarks that the Salon article focused on.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. A moron. It's also clear that he always has been

Dumbass.

[Jakes Progress]

19. To whom is your invective intended?

If you are calling the OP a dumbass, it is against the TOS.

If you are calling Moore a moron and dumbass, you are only self-revealing.

Try ideas instead of invective.

(And show me one thing you have ever produced as intelligent as any of Moore's work.)

[betsuni]

8. *leans over invisible microphone: "wrong"*

Moore does not want Clinton to lose.

[retrowire]

9. sigh. nt

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

11. Moore was hellbent on depressing Dem turnout in 2012

with constant "Dont vote. It only encourages them" and "They're all the same" statements during Occupy.

I think Moore has always resented Obama a bit, as, before 2008, he fancied himself the voice of the left, only to get in his mind, replaced.

[Jakes Progress]

18. How shallow.

Moore is to the left (quite a ways) than Obama. Deal with facts instead of the right wing media info bits. Have you seen his movies? This is about ideas, not perceived motivations.

[lostnfound]

49. His new video Trumpland totally encourages people to go vote for Hillary nt

[bullwinkle428]

14. How is what Moore is saying anything different from the Hillary quote

in your own sig-line?

[tledford]

15. A lot of Democrats are uncomfortable when...

...Moore pushes (and others push) Democrats to act like Democrats.

[BobbyDrake]

24. I don't need a self-righteous prick (like Moore, and some others) to tell me how to be a Democrat.

I'm sure the purity obsession plays well with the neohippie crowd, but not out in the real world.

[tledford]

26. Or Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or

Harry Truman, or John Kennedy, or Jimmy Carter, or Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama...

[BobbyDrake]

27. If you thought a list of Presidents would count as an argument, you were mistaken.

Clearly the idea of people who think differently than you makes you uncomfortable. How progressive of you?

If you want to goose-step, there's always the GOP, I guess.

[tledford]

35. Perfectly comfortable, thank you, but yes, I disagree with people who disagree with everything

Democrats have stood for since 1933. And Michael Moore is solidly in alignment with those Democratic beliefs and principles. Some people who label themselves as Democrats are, unfortunately, not.

[BobbyDrake]

37. When you found and run a party, you can decide who gets to join.

Until then, you'll just have to put up with having to join a party you didn't create, and whose membership you don't get to control. No one appointed you gatekeeper here.

Sorry (not sorry) to rain on the Purity Parade.

[tledford]

43. Might help

https://www.amazon.com/Anger-Trap-Yourself-Frustrations-Sabotage/dp/0787968803/

[BobbyDrake]

44. I support your efforts at self-improvement.

I'm rooting for you!

[ScienceIsGood]

36. Moore supports Hillary, self delete ! N/t

[KittyWampus]

16. I disagree w/that assessment. His message spoke mostly to greens and Sanders supporters.

Democrats are voting Hillary already.

[Jakes Progress]

17. The MSM is heavy on you.

Don't be that guy. Sure, he's overweight and pisses off people who don't like their liberals to be "too liberal". But a post like this only shows more about you than Moore.

He's gotten under my skin a few times. Mostly when I look at the issue though, he's been right most of the time.

Others here will tell you what was really going on with his statement. But I think you already knew that and were just looking for a reason to dump on Moore. I'm not going to bother to look, but I wonder if you've a pattern of this.

If so. Watch his movies.

[Sunlei]

22. Republicans ALWAYS take quotes out of context. Michael Moore stood in front of a hard audience &

was brilliant & 'kind' in presenting his argument. Something no Republican has ever done!

[nolabels]

23. A cross between a court jester and skunk

There is a weird correlation in humans seeking out things that are not the pleasant or even things that might be bad for them but still give them that jolt, stimulation or sensation and them engaging in it regardless. A few examples might be horror movies, hot peppers / spicy foods, strange religious rituals or even kinky sex acts.

Moore is another outlier that ventures that way and Trump might just be one of same in a different flavor.

[Kahuna]

25. Useful idiot for trump? Yes. Moore actually tweeted yesterday that the doctored..

clip will propel righties to download the entire film. Aye aye aye aye. Since when do righties seek the truth when deception will serve them instead?

[relayerbob]

30. I've been wanting

to tell him thanks but no thanks for a long time. He's not really interesting in helping, he's just a gadfly looking for attention. Political Kardashian

[doc03]

32. His film career would be better if he had a Republican in office. Hasn't done so

great the last 7 years. What would Dinesh D'souza do if Trump actually won.

[BobbyDrake]

39. This is a very good assessment.

Maybe because he's so used to framing everything so negatively while aiming for his opponents, he's forgotten how to craft a positive message to actually support the things he claims to support?

[m-lekktor]

38. Ridculous posts like this are why I go elsewhere for informed commentary

and spend less time here since the primary ended.

Michael Moore also called Trump supporters "legal terrorists".

Not everybody to the left of Lieberman is your fucking enemy. get a grip!

[BobbyDrake]

41. I have a different theory.

You go elsewhere because you can't stop refighting the primary, which is against the rules here now.

[bravenak]

46. His film is a love letter to Hillary

He calls her everything beautiful and intelligent in that movie. It made me like her more and made me angry at folks who did her so wrong. Made me realize how much she moderated her progressive style hecause of the horrible bullying she has faced. I hope she goes back to being comfortable with being brash and bold like she was before. I would be the same way if the entire nation seems to hate everything Good I did and blamed me for shit that was not my damn fault.