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Bucky

(53,997 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:47 PM Oct 2016

The "Hidden" Trump voter

This is NOT over. They can come back. They ARE coming back. We can still lose this.

Organize, volunteer, join up, voter early, become a phone bank GOTVer. This will NOT be a blow out. This election will be razor thin.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/10/28/poll-trump-clinton-abc-news-washington-post/92878944/

[font size="5"]Poll: Trump chipping away at Clinton's lead[/font]

In Mike Pence’s words, Republicans are coming home, at least according to a Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll released Friday.

The poll found that Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by just 4 points nationally, 48% to 44%. The Democratic nominee led by 12 points as recently as this weekend.

Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson had 4% support and Green Party’s Jill Stein had 1%.

Trump’s jump in support is thanks to Republican-leaning and independent voters.


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The "Hidden" Trump voter (Original Post) Bucky Oct 2016 OP
Just sampling variations Dem2 Oct 2016 #1
"Things don't change that fast" (two days later: Clinton-Trump Even in Latest Poll; Turnout Critical Bucky Oct 2016 #8
Again, variance and moe tells you nothing Foggyhill Oct 2016 #26
"Hidden" Hillary voters exist in equal numbers. oasis Oct 2016 #2
+1 emulatorloo Oct 2016 #6
Yep True_Blue Oct 2016 #27
Take a look at those "deplorable" overly macho men at the rallies. Their oasis Oct 2016 #30
+1000! DemonGoddess Oct 2016 #34
Nah, it is over. And it is not razor thin Godhumor Oct 2016 #3
Clinton and Trump Even in Latest Poll; Turnout Critical Bucky Oct 2016 #9
Still not worried at all, and she is still up 5 nationally via 538 Godhumor Oct 2016 #32
I'm not concerned at all. stonecutter357 Oct 2016 #4
I'm concerned about a reverse Bradley effect democrattotheend Oct 2016 #5
While Trump supporters should be embarrassed, I don't think they are. Garrett78 Oct 2016 #21
Come on. Shy Trump voters???? DLCWIdem Oct 2016 #24
I agree that we shouldn't let up Jason1961 Oct 2016 #7
see this link Bucky Oct 2016 #10
Doom and Gloom and FEAR Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #11
To be fair, whenever some here want to fight fire w/ fire they're met by the purity police. grossproffit Oct 2016 #13
So you think the best way to motivate Democrats is Fear? Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #15
If Trump becomes president, people better get used to being fearful. grossproffit Oct 2016 #17
Fear won't fix a damn thing Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #19
Why would I need to motivate anyone on a Democratic forum? I use my energy on the phone. grossproffit Oct 2016 #20
Uh huh... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #22
Don't complain, campaign! Ooh, a new slogan. grossproffit Oct 2016 #12
We still look great with the electoral college so that's why I refuse to worry. TrekLuver Oct 2016 #14
Yep. Trump essentially has no path to 270. Garrett78 Oct 2016 #25
exactly, but the Senate is the issue, radius777 Oct 2016 #31
plenty of "hidden" Hillary voters too ibegurpard Oct 2016 #16
YES! grossproffit Oct 2016 #18
Hidden Trump Voters?? GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #23
Sam Wang says this election is the most stable election in 65 years. Clinton's up and has been up. RAFisher Oct 2016 #28
I don't buy this. wisteria Oct 2016 #29
Bullshit. The "hidden Trump voter" does not exist. -nt- Lord Magus Oct 2016 #33

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
8. "Things don't change that fast" (two days later: Clinton-Trump Even in Latest Poll; Turnout Critical
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 10:51 PM
Oct 2016
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-trump-turnout-critical-poll/story?id=43159639

Clinton and Trump Even in Latest Poll; Turnout Critical

Oy. I had so hoped you were right and I was wrong.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
26. Again, variance and moe tells you nothing
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:50 PM
Oct 2016

This is a bit tiresome
People don't flip their votes every day of the week
Just gotv

oasis

(49,376 posts)
30. Take a look at those "deplorable" overly macho men at the rallies. Their
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:16 AM
Oct 2016

spouses would love to see them brought down a notch or two. A woman president would just be the ticket.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
3. Nah, it is over. And it is not razor thin
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:01 PM
Oct 2016

I'm at just as much peace with this election as I was in the 2 weeks before voting in 2008.

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
9. Clinton and Trump Even in Latest Poll; Turnout Critical
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-trump-turnout-critical-poll/story?id=43159639

"It is over"

"Not even razor thin"

You need to go help turn out the vote to atone for the preceding hubris.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
32. Still not worried at all, and she is still up 5 nationally via 538
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:04 AM
Oct 2016

With an almost insurmountable least in early voting in both NV and NC.


I'm good, thanks.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
5. I'm concerned about a reverse Bradley effect
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:04 PM
Oct 2016

I fear that some Trump voters are embarrassed to admit they are voting for him, and polls are thus understating his support. If it weren't for the problem of it being illegal to robopoll cell phones, I would actually trust IVR polls more than live caller polls at this point.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
21. While Trump supporters should be embarrassed, I don't think they are.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:31 PM
Oct 2016

And polls are anonymous. There may be some who lie because a family member is in the room with them when they're responding to a phone survey, but my guess is there'd be more of a hidden Clinton vote than a hidden Trump vote. Women who don't wish for their jackass husbands to know they're voting for Clinton (or someone other than Trump).

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
24. Come on. Shy Trump voters????
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:47 PM
Oct 2016

Know any shy braggarts. All the evidence points to how loud and obnoxious they are.

Jason1961

(413 posts)
7. I agree that we shouldn't let up
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:20 PM
Oct 2016

But the sky is far from falling, don't let the MSM get you upset or get your spirits down

We're going to WIN

Start calling her President Hillary Clinton

But don't pop the champagne yet but go ahead and get it iced

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
11. Doom and Gloom and FEAR
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 10:54 PM
Oct 2016

Republicans are very good at pushing these buttons and they sadly seem to be all the rage on DU these days...

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
17. If Trump becomes president, people better get used to being fearful.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:08 PM
Oct 2016

Stop and Frisk, Mass deportation, Ban Muslims, Steal oil, etc.

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
19. Fear won't fix a damn thing
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:13 PM
Oct 2016

Many of us don't need that fear to motivate us - but you are welcome to yours.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
20. Why would I need to motivate anyone on a Democratic forum? I use my energy on the phone.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:23 PM
Oct 2016

and in person.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
31. exactly, but the Senate is the issue,
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:21 AM
Oct 2016

and imo the real reason for Republican Comey's hit job.

The odds of Trump winning is still highly remote.

As long as Hillary holds the blue states and wins CO,VA,PA and NH (all of which she's solidly ahead in) she wins the presidency easily.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. Hidden Trump Voters??
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:43 PM
Oct 2016

News to me. ALL the ones I know and have seen are proud to announce it.

The only hidden voters are for Hillary. Worried their man will disapprove of their vote. Good thing the ballot box is private.

RAFisher

(466 posts)
28. Sam Wang says this election is the most stable election in 65 years. Clinton's up and has been up.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016
http://election.princeton.edu/2016/10/12/its-alive/

It's not going to be razor thin. The polling doesn't show that at all.
 

wisteria

(19,581 posts)
29. I don't buy this.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:01 AM
Oct 2016

There just aren't that many hidden Trump voters. Trump supporters aren't enbarrarassed or silent about who they plan to vote for.

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