2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOn a couple of threads I have commented that Comey should be fired but alternatively,
that he is playing a stalling game to keep the RW from using the issue of new emails as an election issue
On the other hand there was no urgency, in terms of the nature and content of these new emails, for Comey to initiate a new investigation, especially 12 days from an election
What I can say with confidence is that Comey's announcement is unprecedented by the the director of a, division of the DOJ during the last remaining days before an election
There is a hidden game being played here I'm just no longer sure what the game is or who is playing it
Clinton is most certainly going to be elected president by an impressive majority in the next week and a half So what is this gambit all about?
This is an open comment post with no agenda in mind
Comments either way are greatly appreciated
One stipulation, the premise of this discussion is that Clinton is going to win regardless so concern trolls stay out of this discussion
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)It seems impossible to me that the FBI would not have asked Abeden if she was in possession of any related emails. If Ameden answered "no" under oath, then Abeden has a Martha Stewart problem. I think that is why the specifics of the emails did not need to be known to convince Comey to continue the investigation. Abeden and Blumenthal should be shown the door by Hillary.
Maeve
(42,279 posts)About increasing her claims against Weiner in the divorce.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)especially in a divorce with political ramifications
Don't for a minute think that the RW are drooling at the prospect of messy depositions in the divorce case
Monk06
(7,675 posts)part of a personal agenda or is he working a third party game?
In short who is he allied with and what is his motive
If he is setting up Abedin in order to give an opening to a future impeachment move by a GOP dominated congress then this is unprecedented in another way.
It has a the makings of an historical move to destroy the mandate of a president elect even before she is elected
It falls within the pattern of how the US has destabilized uncooperative nations since the US coup of Iran coup of Iran in 1952
The right wing have demonstrated in the last eight years that they will attempt to destabilize US governments that don't serve their purposes
What is new is that they mean to do this during the last days of an election cycle
That by definition is a palace coup
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)emails unknown to the FBI, then Ameden has a Martha Stewart problem. That would answer the question as to why Comey could justify continuing the investigation merely based on the subject lines of the emails alone. This might have nothing to do with Hillary specifically.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)turning her back on him in a divorce proceeding
Presumably he wants future employment even though he is going out of his way to make himself a pariah
The man is unbalanced like Ussange. He's not only a loose canon but you can't even be sure what deck he is loose on
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)stay under Republican control.
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)and the deleted emails were found using forensic data recovery of the HDD, I don't see why Huma would collect and save 1000s of emails. Well, thats what I would have done
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)That is how the Democratic Party should respond to this attack!
GOTV!
still_one
(92,116 posts)the campaign and its surrogates will get on as many news programs as possible, and state the facts that this has NOTHING to do with any emails to or from Hillary, or Hillary's email server, and there is NO investigation regarding that
I also believe that Hillary will give another press conference no later than Monday, and reiterate those points in a very clear and concise manner, so there is no doubt that this has nothing to do with Hillary or her emails
For everyone else, we need to do what we can to Get Out The Vote
We will get through this
Monk06
(7,675 posts)executive
Comity and fairness means nothing to Republicans They are scorpions hitching a ride on the back of a frog
Whoa be the frog that falls for the plea for generosity by a murderous insect
dalton99
(781 posts)Besides, there are more qualified Democratic candidates willing and able to take the job.
dalton99
(781 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)that post election Clinton impeachment will be on the front burner and he is setting the stage for it with this announcement
He is out to destabilize a Clinton presidency because he knows she will win and he wants to keep his RW bona fides in order to stay in Washington as a player
He's just like Issa, Chaffetz and the rest of the RW career poiiticical vandals
They don't want a stable government they want chaos because political instability puts money in their bank accounts
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It has to be agenda driven. I'm not sure what that agenda is or who is driving it. I'm at a loss on that one. I do believe it is in support of conservatives as it was done while the Clinton campaign was firing off on all cylinders.
This is going to fire up Clintons base. The people giving money, volunteering, and driving people to the polls. That has to be known by those in the loop as well. Still, it was done at a time when Clinton and company were flat out steamrolling.
The next couple of days will be interesting.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)1. Hillary has already been cleared by the FBI
2. Comey followed that up with a gratuitous hit by holding an unprecedented new conference
3. Comey is Republican, who changed his registration to Independent, but we don't know why.
4. Comey followed that again by his "performance" at the Republican show trial (Congressional hearing), where he gave free ammo to
the Republicans to use against her.
5. Comey has drip fed emails out in batches, ensuring that "THE EMAILS" were constantly in the news cycle, and hurting Hillary.
6. Comey sent this latest letter, 11 days before the GE, ONLY to Republican Congressmen (and iirc Rep Senators), NOT to Democratic members.
7. Comey simply HAS TO HAVE KNOWN the effect this would cause, and still went ahead with it.
8. The FBI have had this laptop for the last FIVE weeks, and only now he released this ?
9. Comey has prided himself on his integrity. He must be challenged by senior Democrats to explain how this maintains his integrity, when what he has done is now a major issue in the Presidential campaign and hurts one side to the favour of the other.
I heard Congressman Cummings on with Rachel Maddow, and he shied away from criticising Comey directly. I can understand WHY he is doing that, but at this stage I think that is a mistake. Comey needs a baseball bat squarely between the legs. What he has done is outrageous, utterly partisan and finally strips away any notion at integrity. Hang the F**ker out to dry.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)intimidation
It is an FBI tradition from the beginning after all
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)and never said anything to the Democratic congressmen.
He WILL say that it was the Republicans who asked for the further info, but he's fooling no one by saying that because it's as plain as day how sensitive this would be.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)It proves much to do about nothing, I predicted President Obama will fire him with cause. Violation of the Hatch act and poor judgment in the performance of his duties.
Clearing the table for President Clinton.