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Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:56 PM Oct 2016

Fahrenthold to the rescue: My hero drops the first negative story on Trump post Comey-Updated

Last edited Sat Oct 29, 2016, 08:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Update******
Yesterday I commented that charitable self-dealing may be part of the oppo drop. It's right in Fahrenthold's article. So bear with me and let's just think about this...

Self Dealing Defined:
IRC 4941(d) provides that the following transactions are generally considered acts of self-dealing between a private foundation and a disqualified person: E: Transferring foundation income or assets to, or for the use by or
benefit of, a disqualified person

A disqualified person is: A substantial contributor to the foundation (as defined in IRC 507(d)(2));
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/eotopicq85.pdf

No question that Trump is a disqualified person and cannot receive any personal benefit from the Foundation. In the WaPo story there are numerous examples of how Trump benefitted, but many of those benefits are "indirect." Some of these indirect benefits, like fixing the fountain in a public space that indirectly help his property values are tolerated by the IRS. They're super skeezy and the kind of thing done by irredeemable people, but allowed. However, there are smaller transactions listed, as with everything in the law, the devil is in the small details.

Then he used $100 of the foundation’s money to buy a two-person membership to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.


Whoops. That ain't legal Mr. Trump. Here's what the IRS has to say about that.

Membership dues and fees, by their very nature, are usually paid by individuals on a continuing basis. When dues are paid by a private foundation on behalf of a disqualified person, it may be presumed that the disqualified person is being relieved of the obligation, whether or not legally enforceable, to make such payment. The benefit conferred on the individual is not incidental or tenuous, but is direct and economic in nature. Accordingly, Rev. Rul. 77-160, 1977-1 C.B. 351, holds that the payment of membership dues by a private foundation on behalf of a disqualified person is an act of self-dealing under IRC 4941(d)(1)(E).


And here's the point. Agents at the IRS and courts have burned a lot of calories on these rules. You can't just say, "Pssssssh, it's just $100. What's the big deal." Well, the big deal is IRC 4941(d)(1)(E). IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THE IRS CODE. There doesn't seem to be a "nominal direct dealing exception." Meaning that if the foundation gives a disqualified person $100 thats not LEGAL.

This is akin to the bank teller who was caught taking $20 out of the drawer. The bank isn't going to die with that loss. But do you stop there? Hell no. The bank would analyze every one of the teller's transactions and you can believe that there would be legal consequence.

At some point, willful direct self dealing becomes illegal if it is implemented in a fraudulent way in an attempt to avoid personal tax liabilities. How can we be so sure Trump's tax returns are clean? Gotta see the returns.

He might brag about how much of a tax genius he is, but the limited information available to us shows he ain't.


Original Post--------

So Trump shows up at a charity event uninvited and sits down in an empty chair on the stage. Nobody knows what to do so they allow it to happen. He leaves without making a donation. And my hero (Mr. Fahrenthold) has a nice video that sums it all up.

This, while seemingly a minor deal, is actually an excellent story for Clinton. It makes Trump look like a liar. It makes Trump look poor. It reignites the tax return issue (because don't we all want to know how charitable he is now?) Finally, it puts Trump in a category where he belongs. This is a loser move. We all know people who show up at events uninvited and/or who try to steal honor. They are called losers.

Hopefully this is the first in a long string of Trump stories that will start to percolate in the post-Comey vigilante era. I predict at least something else today.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boasts-of-his-philanthropy-but-his-giving-falls-short-of-his-words/2016/10/29/b3c03106-9ac7-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpcharity-3pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

My apologies to those who I offended with my earlier pro-Tesla post. I was quite honestly losing my mind that there hadn't been a negative Trump story injected into this news cycle. I had to think of something else, but like any trial attorney I should know my audience. Irrespective of my intention, I was, in fact, extremely careless. These are difficult times. I've deleted it, scrubbed my server clean, and I fully appleagize. (sic)_
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mucifer

(23,530 posts)
1. I wish Fahrenthold's stories would catch on the way the emails do
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Oct 2016

I highly doubt it will get anywhere near the attention the comey story is getting.

That said, we can pass the news on to people we know and I'm so glad there is some reporting going on.

Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
7. It gives at least SOMETHING for the talking heads to chat about tomorrow
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:28 PM
Oct 2016

There has to be a story so at least the partisans can bring it up. Now at least something and at least it gets tax returns back on the table.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
2. From Kurt Eichenwald's twitter I get that he also has a new article on Trump coming soon...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 04:59 PM
Oct 2016


That in your OP is 1st rate weirdo sh*t!!! Trump the ultimate creepy creep!
 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
11. Kurt has also said on MSNBC that he is tired of all the
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:53 PM
Oct 2016

lies told by Trump supporters.

Sure seems a straight-shooter.

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
5. Comey is a distraction - Trump is the real villain
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 05:10 PM
Oct 2016

As far as Trump being a cheap skate - that is totally believeable but still noteworthy.

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
12. Here's another gem from the story ...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 07:56 PM
Oct 2016
At times, Drumpf seemed to make light of others’ expectations about his generosity.

In 1997, for instance, he was “principal for a day” at a public school in an impoverished area of the Bronx. The chess team was holding a bake sale, Hot & Crusty danishes and croissants. They were $5,000 short of what they needed to travel to a tournament.

Drumpf had brought something to wow them.

“He handed them a fake million-dollar bill,” said David MacEnulty, a teacher and the chess team’s coach.

The team’s parent volunteers were thrilled.

Then disappointment.

Drumpf then gave them $200 in real money and drove away in a limousine.

Why just $200?

“I have no idea,” MacEnulty said. “He was about the most clueless person I’ve ever seen in that regard.”

The happy ending, he said, was that a woman read about Drumpf’s gift in the New York Times, called the school and donated the $5,000. “I am ashamed to be the same species as this man,” MacEnulty recalled her saying.


Seriously, what kind of piece of SHIT human being does something like this? He gave the students a fake $1,000,000 bill? Then turns around and actually only gives them 200 measly bucks in real money ... then rides off from their impoverished Bronx H.S. in a fucking limo?

I mean ... how much more proof does one really need that this man is QUITE LITERALLY a fucking sociopath?
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