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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 11:48 AM Nov 2016

Electoral College Math Continues to Favor Clinton

Electoral College Math Continues to Favor Clinton
NATIONAL POLITICS|By Amy Walter, November 1, 2016

The other constant has been the demographic divide. Trump has struggled to — and quite frankly was never interested in — building a broad coalition of voters. He didn’t just ignore the RNC’s 2013 GOP autopsy recommendations to appeal to communities of color, younger voters and women, he is actively running against them.

He has doubled/tripled/quadrupled down on the theory that there are enough white, working class voters to get him over the finish line. For her part, Clinton has tried to assemble the Obama coalition of young and non-white voters. And, while it is unlikely that we’ll see African-American turnout hit 2012 levels, Clinton has been able to add to her coalition suburban and college educated white voters who are turned off by Trump’s behavior.

The most recent polls suggest that Trump’s best chances to flip a state Obama carried in 2012 are Iowa, Ohio and Florida. Even so, North Carolina — a state Romney carried in 2012 — is looking tougher and tougher for Trump. Pennsylvania, Virginia and Colorado also look out of reach. Without North Carolina or Pennsylvania, it is almost impossible for him to hit 270.


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exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. 272 for Clinton
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 11:58 AM
Nov 2016

If she loses IA, OH, and FL as well as the electoral vote in ME.

Based on 538 Colorado is the dividing line now.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. There is no "tightening" ***** plus one-fifth of electorate has already voted.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:04 PM
Nov 2016

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GOTV. Let's win Ohio, Arizona, Georgia, and Iowa too!

Daily Kos Elections 2016: No, sorry, no "tightening" here (at least not yet)
By David Jarman Oct 31, 2016

You’ve probably already OD’d on reading about Friday’s cryptic Comey memo, which re-opened the e-mail can of worms (if only to reveal the can was empty), from every legal and messaging angle. I don't have anything to add about it from those perspectives, so I’ll just stay in my lane here and answer the questions about “what does this do to the polls?!?” It’s a pretty simple answer, though: nothing so far. The Daily Kos Elections model is still holding steady in the mid-90s, currently giving Hillary Clinton 96 percent odds of victory according to Monday’s numbers.

It shouldn't be hard to see why: a) many people simply haven’t heard the story (believe it or not, most people don’t follow the news as obsessively as your average Daily Kos reader), focusing instead on football or on earning enough money to survive or simply having a life on the weekend; b) many people who’ve heard the story just walked away from it with more question marks than they before; and most importantly c) thanks to the intense levels of political polarization in today’s society, most people who fully digested the story already made up their minds long ago, and what few truly undecided swing voters still remain are more likely to be making their last-minute decisions based on their own personal economic situations or the ol’ “have a beer with” test, instead of the baffling sequel to a story that was highly-technical and boring the first time around.

(There’s also: d) 21 million people have already voted, which we’ll discuss in more detail shortly. And while the early voters are probably the most hardcore partisans of the electorate, the ones least likely to be swayed by a story like this, that’s still possibly 1/5th of the electorate ... is already locked in.)

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
6. As the article points out, that 1/5th of the electorate consists of hardcore partisans.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:22 PM
Nov 2016

It's all about turnout at this point. Clinton is a heavy favorite to reach 270+, but a closer than expected contest will impact down-ballot races as well as the media narrative following the election (the message will be, "Clinton has no chance of lasting more than 4 years because she barely beat the worst candidate in modern history.&quot .

We live in a pretty screwed up nation.

Where Clinton emails (or Clinton staffer emails) rule all.

Where the mainstream media doesn't much care that Trump faces a lawsuit for allegedly raping a child, that Trump's campaign may have highly questionable ties to Russia, that Trump has sexually assaulted numerous women, that Trump has no substantive policy position, that Trump is a racist and a xenophobe, that Trump has stiffed contractors and students of his university and others, that Trump doesn't pay taxes and brags about it, and so on.

Where Donald effing Trump may get 50 million votes.

As someone in another thread said, it's Kafkaesque. Actually, it's beyond Kafkaesque. We need a new term to describe just how insane this all is.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
7. The electoral vote total will illustrate the M$M-voter chasm lucidly.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:32 PM
Nov 2016

Trump will be very lucky to break 200, and if he loses Texas,it will be a complete blowout.

Hillary Clinton currently has a 96% chance of winning the presidency even if Trump carries OH, IA, GA, and AZ. If he loses one of those, he's below 200. Clinton is going to have a decent mandate at a minimum.

Time to focus on the Senate GOTV efforts in IN, MO, NV, NH, NC, and PA, and esp. districts that are House tossups.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Keeping him below 200 seems a little less likely to me than it once did.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 12:42 PM
Nov 2016

It's rather sad that Trump could do better than McCain and maybe even better than Romney.

I sure as hell hope it's a landslide, as that would help Dems take back the Senate and pick up seats in the House.

If I had to guess right now, I'd say Clinton will end up with 320-330 electoral votes. But I'm afraid the media will focus on her failure to reach 50% of the popular vote.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
11. There are countless polls, and the results vary quite a bit.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 02:30 PM
Nov 2016

Again, I don't doubt Clinton will win. I've made clear what my concerns are.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
9. The media loves a horse race
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 01:03 PM
Nov 2016

Using a blank map and filling each state individually this is what's clear to me. She gets to 279 electoral votes and victory if she wins:

Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada. These are not reach states and her lead is pretty solid in these places.

Another way of looking at it is that she can afford to lose Florida, Ohio and North Carolina and still win.

This assumption of course assumes she holds onto Michigan and Wisconsin which is more than likely.

So even though it's closer tham I would prefer it's Trump that has his back up against the wall, not Clinton.

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