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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:21 PM Nov 2016

I Can Now Understand How Hitler Came to Power in Germany...

...the complete normalization of hate, violence, and mendacity. We have now gone from mere false equivalency to the embrace of right wing propaganda.

Trump is openly calling for violent unrest if he does not win, and there is not a whit of outrage from the media.


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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
2. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it..
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:25 PM
Nov 2016

They always put these people in power and then regret it everytime when those they give power too eventually come for them.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
3. Hitler had the support of a much smaller percentage of German voters than Trump now commands.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:28 PM
Nov 2016

It wasn't the German people who brought Hitler to power, it was the accommodating, appeasing German political establishment that did so.

lapucelle

(18,187 posts)
5. The tipping point was
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:39 PM
Nov 2016

the gridlock created by the Nazi plurality in the Reichstag. The conservative members lobbied for Hitler to be made chancellor in a "what have we got to lose?" moment.

Legislative gridlock was a strategy devised and then successfully employed by Goebbels.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
9. Very flawed Weimar Republic constitution, which allowed the Chancellor to seize power
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:22 PM
Nov 2016

if he deemed it necessary to do so. I heard a great lecture on this subject -- it was about how the Weimar Republic's constitution was a fatally flawed document that allowed for the exact type of takeover that Hitler (and the Nazi party) engineered. The lecture discussed how the Weimar constitution contrasted with our constitution with the separation of powers that can't just be suspended by the president.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
10. Our system is totally dependent on the willingness of our generals to say ....
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:23 PM
Nov 2016

"No, Mr. President. You don't have the authority to order us to do that."

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
11. I know everyone has to behave. The lecture was about how this flaw allowed for an EASY
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:25 PM
Nov 2016

and unimpeeded takeover.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
4. The complete cravenness of the more traditional conservatives is also similar.
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:32 PM
Nov 2016

Yes there are a handful of anti-Trumpers on the right, but for the most part they're all moral cowards or
actively evil opportunists.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
7. I agree
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 07:42 PM
Nov 2016

people can call me a "concern troll" but this is scary. Even if Hillary wins, these assholes will not go away.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
12. I agree. This seems to be a continuously escalating situation
Tue Nov 1, 2016, 08:26 PM
Nov 2016

and I am concerned that violence will be coming some time in the future. Seems like it is only a matter of time. The success of Trump is bad omen for this country, imo.

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