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oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:37 AM Nov 2016

why?

Can someone please explain to me -- in all seriousness -- why the FBI wants Trump as president? This should frighten us ALL more than anything Trump himself says. It scares the crap out of me. All conspiracy theories entertained, but I really want to know the actual truth here.

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why? (Original Post) oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 OP
Comey is a Republican...that simple. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #1
there has to be something more oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #2
His agents are a mix of Dems/Inds/Reps, and probably the gun loving ones love Trump, so will spin OnDoutside Nov 2016 #17
He is also a Clinton hater ...goes back to the bullshit Whitewater crap. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #18
I suspect we're seeing residual hangover from the Bush/Cheney admin... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #3
They don't, I don't even think Comey does Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #4
if thats so oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #5
ABSOLUTELY! Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #7
I think Comey was covering his butt and salvaging his reputation meadowlark5 Nov 2016 #6
Plan B - that is absolutely their goal. It is the only thing that is plausible. Native Nov 2016 #14
Totally agree meadowlark5 Nov 2016 #16
Impeachment originates in the House oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #20
I believe so, why do you ask? Native Nov 2016 #21
Because the House will remain red oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #24
That's what I thought you were getting at. Remember, he's made many enemies there. Native Nov 2016 #30
Pure supposition on my part but SticksnStones Nov 2016 #8
At the very least a kacekwl Nov 2016 #10
Exactly....after all he has said he would cede the powers of the presidency to his VP SticksnStones Nov 2016 #11
That won't work. Two words, "nuclear weapons." Native Nov 2016 #22
All they have to do is wait kacekwl Nov 2016 #31
Comey may be on the Russian payroll Democat Nov 2016 #9
yes oldtime dfl_er Nov 2016 #15
Many Republicans think that Trump will be a "figurehead" president unitedwethrive Nov 2016 #12
Birds of a feather dalton99 Nov 2016 #13
The Republican Party is doing damage control when and where they can. Orsino Nov 2016 #19
Tin-Foil-Hat time maxrandb Nov 2016 #23
bunch of old right wing religious assholes that hate women JI7 Nov 2016 #25
BINGO! get the red out Nov 2016 #26
Law enforcement is inherently pro authoritarian.... vi5 Nov 2016 #27
It is like a lot of the military. They don't want a woman in charge. duffyduff Nov 2016 #28
Comey was a part of the old attacks against Bill and Hillary when Bill was POTUS Lucinda Nov 2016 #29
I don't even want to go there One Black Sheep Nov 2016 #32

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
1. Comey is a Republican...that simple.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:42 AM
Nov 2016

There is a nest of vipers in the FBI which dragged out the email investigation and is playing partisan politics.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
2. there has to be something more
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:43 AM
Nov 2016

from all accounts he's not stupid and I can't imagine him wanting World War III, or all the other insanity that would come with a Trump oppresidency.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
17. His agents are a mix of Dems/Inds/Reps, and probably the gun loving ones love Trump, so will spin
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:32 AM
Nov 2016

in his favour. It probably goes to Comey's weakness as a leader, that there are so many who feel free to leak at will.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
18. He is also a Clinton hater ...goes back to the bullshit Whitewater crap.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:46 AM
Nov 2016

But I find the simplest explanation is usually correct...consider the invective he hurled at Hillary in July...Hillary hating repug loser.

Wounded Bear

(58,629 posts)
3. I suspect we're seeing residual hangover from the Bush/Cheney admin...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:44 AM
Nov 2016

there were a lot of post 9/11 hires, and there was a lot of pre-screening going on all over the gov't for ideological reasons.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
4. They don't, I don't even think Comey does
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:45 AM
Nov 2016

I think he was covering his ass because FBI depends on House for funding, and GOP is likely to retain control

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
6. I think Comey was covering his butt and salvaging his reputation
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:50 AM
Nov 2016

He knows how the republicans work. He's been their target and would be served up on a platter if he didn't say anything about the emails. Probably because he knows it would have been leaked anyway by agents in the FBI who are partisan and probably do want a Trump presidency.

I also think the possibility of impeaching Trump, if elected, and getting Pence is always their plan B.

Native

(5,939 posts)
14. Plan B - that is absolutely their goal. It is the only thing that is plausible.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:10 AM
Nov 2016

If Trump isn't arrested because of the Trump University lawsuit or if the rape case doesn't turn out to have merit, he'll be impeached or they will find out some other way to get rid of him. For all we know, their leaked BS about not finding a Russian connection could be exactly that - pure bullshit. My guess is they've found plenty to get him trouble - treason or any other related crime - but they are saving it in the event he's elected. God knows getting rid of Trump so Pence will take the helm will be the easiest job they could ever ask for. These people are not stupid. I'm sure they have a plan B, C, and D.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
16. Totally agree
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:24 AM
Nov 2016

This has probably been their plan right after Trump got the nomination. They couldn't do anything to stop it, most republicans don't want him but what could they do? Anything during the campaign would incite the Trump soldiers to revolt. So they had to figure out something to get rid of him and get the white house. This has probably been their plan since August.

I hope they fail and fail "bigly".

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
24. Because the House will remain red
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:50 PM
Nov 2016

after the election. I seriously doubt they'll attempt to impeach President Trump.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
8. Pure supposition on my part but
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 10:54 AM
Nov 2016

I think the republicans working to elect Trump have a phase II plan where Trump is elected, then impeached, forced to resign and Pence is President.

I'm convinced most beltway repubs believe they are voting for Pence not Trump...

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
11. Exactly....after all he has said he would cede the powers of the presidency to his VP
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:01 AM
Nov 2016

and he will stay busy making America great again.

And that, I believe, is how they can all sleep at night, look their daughters in the eye, etc...

Native

(5,939 posts)
22. That won't work. Two words, "nuclear weapons."
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:44 PM
Nov 2016

To be a puppet president, you have to demonstrate that you can be controlled. Does anyone think Donald can be controlled?

on edit: I guess they could put him in a coma.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
31. All they have to do is wait
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:14 PM
Nov 2016

until he sees how much work is involved. He will hand over the reins gladly.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
15. yes
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:13 AM
Nov 2016

I think it's more nefarious than just the Repubs wanting a figurehead prez, or Comey covering his ass. I think it's extremely frightening and we should be very alert.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
12. Many Republicans think that Trump will be a "figurehead" president
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 11:05 AM
Nov 2016

They are hoping that he will surround himself with typical repubs, and just do the ceremonial part of the job. In this way, they don't see him as a danger. What they are ignoring, is who he has chosen to surround himself with during the campaign…far from your average repub operatives.

Or - they are only thinking of the Supreme Court, and don't really care what else he does.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
19. The Republican Party is doing damage control when and where they can.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 12:51 PM
Nov 2016

Comey may just owe too many favors to sit out the cycle.

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
23. Tin-Foil-Hat time
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 01:58 PM
Nov 2016

but I think that they know any number of the dozens of fraud, sexual abuse, tax-evasion crimes swirling around Trump will be enough to impeach him if he's elected. Then we get President Pence with a Repuke House and Senate.

Trump's a vindictive asshole who doesn't know shit, but Pence is a "Grandfatherly Nazi" who knows how to implement a Reich Wing agenda

get the red out

(13,461 posts)
26. BINGO!
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 04:58 PM
Nov 2016

They don't care if he's Trump or Subway Rat, if he has "R" after his name he'll put those non-white male sub-humans in their place!!!!!

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
27. Law enforcement is inherently pro authoritarian....
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:03 PM
Nov 2016

All law enforcement, whatever it's original intent was, exists as it is now to serve those in power. Trump's approach promises to take the gloves off and go back to the good old days when they were able to do whatever was necessary (to people of color mostly) to "get the job done".

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
29. Comey was a part of the old attacks against Bill and Hillary when Bill was POTUS
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:17 PM
Nov 2016

I think he has a wide spectrum of reasons to behave this way...

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
32. I don't even want to go there
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 08:17 PM
Nov 2016

there could be some disturbing reasons why this appears to be so...best not to think about it.

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