Catholic Church Bulletin Says You’ll Go To Hell If You Vote Democrat

[workinclasszero]

Catholic Church Bulletin Says You’ll Go To Hell If You Vote Democrat
“Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell.”
Ed Mazza Overnight Editor, The Huffington Post 11/04/2016 04:12 am ET

Hillary Clinton is carrying out the work of Satan and Catholics who vote Democrat are going to hell. That’s the message of a recent bulletin at a San Diego Catholic church.

“It is a mortal sin to vote Democrat,” a flyer distributed at the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church in Old Town read, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. “Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell.”

The Oct. 16 flyer, called “Voters Guide for Serious Catholics,” was written in English and Spanish and tucked into the weekly bulletin given out at the church, which also serves as a polling place.

The flyer listed five Democratic policy positions at odds with church teachings. Two weeks later, a second flyer mentioned Clinton by name and claimed she was under the influence of Satan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/catholic-church-democrats-go-to-hell_us_581c1493e4b0d9ce6fbb1c3d

[dalton99]

1. But it's ok for Trump to insult the pope

[workinclasszero]

3. I wonder what their position is over a church that protected

child molesters and made sure they had a steady supply of young innocent victims for decades?

[TrekLuver]

5. And the Pope doesn't like Trashbag Trump.

[MADem]

2. This idiot needs firing!

Immaculate Conception’s pastor, Father Richard Perozich, admitted to the New York Daily News that he told churchgoers they will go to hell if they vote Democrat. However, he also said the flyer was written by an outside group, wasn’t reviewed by him and “went a little beyond” the approved message.

“The fact that somebody took this and then made it public took it out of context,” Perozich was quoted as saying. “I would never tell anyone to ‘vote this’ or ‘vote that.”

By law, Perozich is forbidden from supporting candidates in church or church-provided materials or the organization could lose its tax-exempt status under IRS rules.

Perozich has made headlines for his politics before, including in 2009 when he claimed that “abominations” would be forced on America by President Barack Obama.

[anneboleyn]

17. I have never heard a priest tell parishioners something so overt, and he should be punished.

I am an agnostic/atheist, and I am no apologist for the church, but this kind of hysterical, evangelical nonsense is out of the norm. This priest should absolutely be called out for telling congregants that they would "go to hell" if they voted for democrats, which is a ridiculous statement for a catholic priest to make in the first place. And the church should do its best to find out who stuffed this idiotic pamphlet in the church bulletin

Catholic voters tend to vote for democrats as a group.

[MADem]

38. This is the kind of moron the not-so-new-now Pope wants to jettison.

"Who am I to judge?" he asked. You'd think this dunce would take the frigging hint!

[anneboleyn]

6. There was a long thread on this last night. The diocese stated that they had nothing to do with this

and neither did the church and its priest. Just imho the language of the bulletin, which is likely the work of some enterprising "volunteer" type, was more evangelical than Catholic in tone. The church does not take official positions on political elections, and Catholics tend to vote for democrats over republicans.

[MADem]

10. The Priest told his parishioners they were "going to hell" if they voted for Democrats.

Immaculate Conception’s pastor, Father Richard Perozich, admitted to the New York Daily News that he told churchgoers they will go to hell if they vote Democrat. However, he also said the flyer was written by an outside group, wasn’t reviewed by him and “went a little beyond” the approved message.

Pope needs to fire his ass.

[rickford66]

8. No more tax-exempt rules?

[BobbyDrake]

15. In terms of "things that actually influence the Catholic vote," the Church itself is actually...

...very low on the list. It's the end result of their decades of child-abusing-covering hypocrisy.

[Rocknrule]

16. What ISN'T a mortal sin to these people?

[Koinos]

30. Pedophilia and protection of pedophiles?

[Rocknrule]

33. They're cool with rape too

as long as it's heterosexual and the victim doesn't get an abortion afterwards

[MindPilot]

36. And there is that whole ritual cannibalism thing.

[Ligyron]

48. Yup

My ex is Jewish but I took her to a Christmas mass one year. Right over the alter is a huge cross with a bleeding figure of Jesus nailed to it, crown of thorns encircling his head, blood steaming everywhere.

"My God, what's that?", she asked pointing. She's never been in a church before in her life.

I tried to explain but she said "You worship human torture"?

Yeah

When Communion time came I didn't even try...

[NastyRiffraff]

60. Someone once said

that if Jesus were executed by the state today, people would be wearing little guerneys around their necks.

[arthritisR_US]

19. End the tax exemption status for all churches!

[sarcasmo]

21. Thankfully I'M an Atheist, and sky being news makes me laugh.

[Grey Lemercier]

28. same here, god delusion shite is almost always good for a few yucks

Religion is the last (and biggest) acceptable woo out there. It permeates the zeigeist of hate in the US and the globe.

[nolabels]

31. Yea, but with delusional thinking being carried out with a herd mentality can there really be.......

To be rhetorical because this is not small issue for us non-religious persons, with delusional thinking being carried out with a herd mentality then there can be no religious freedom. That small minority the would like inflict their beliefs on everybody will always be the problem

I don't have a problem with religion in the overall sense, but more of when you have to take position and allegiance with others just because you are not willing to take a position to be a part of any herd. Then at that point, religion affects you regardless of a your attempt not to be a part of it

Not a bad idea to laugh at it, but when you pop the hood to check the drive-train, look carefully, all is not copacetic in the way it runs

[pnwmom]

22. Please FIX YOUR TITLE. This wasn't a Catholic Church Bulletin, or a Catholic anything.

It was a FLYER that literally ANYONE could have inserted into those Bulletins. It has been disavowed by both the pastor and the diocese. It doesn't represent Catholic thinking.

Church doors are usually left open so people can pray. Anyone could have come in there and inserted the fliers into the stacks of printed Church bulletins.

And Catholics are more likely to be Democrats than the average American.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/catholics-america/religion-and-political-affiliation

Overall, 57 percent of Catholics affiliate with the Democrats and 40 percent with the Republicans when those leaning toward one or the other party are included. The Democrats held a three-to-two lead before we included the leaners.

The “within generation” comparisons for 2011 show more Catholics affiliated with the Democrats than with the Republicans in all four generations.

[workinclasszero]

24. Its the Huffington's Post title

Not mine.

Also it looks like you missed this part of the story:

Immaculate Conception’s pastor, Father Richard Perozich, admitted to the New York Daily News that he told churchgoers they will go to hell if they vote Democrat.

[pnwmom]

25. It's still deceptive. According to PEW, 57% of Catholics are Democrats. nt

[whatthehey]

39. Only because of Hispanics.

[pnwmom]

43. So Hispanics don't count? Even non-hispanic Catholics are more likely to

be Democrats than the average white Protestant, or the average American overall.

The Catholic Church in the US is diverse, and always has been. It has always included a wave of recent immigrants. Now it is Hispanic but before then there were many Irish, Italians, and others.

[whatthehey]

44. Of course, but it's a racial/ethnic split not religious. Hispanics, not Catholics, are strong D

As we can see, non-Hispanic Catholics are strong R and getting more so. The overall Hispanic split is identical to that of Hispanic Catholics, which makes sense since a large majority are Catholic



Pretending that the high level of Hispanic adherents means Catholics qua Catholics are Dem is like pointing to Black churches and saying that means Evangelicals are strongly Dem. If as high a ratio of Evangelicals were black as Catholics are Hispanic, it would make Evangelical Protestantism look politically Dem too, which no-one sane pretends is true.

[pnwmom]

46. Try comparing white non-hispanic Catholics to white non-hispanic Protestants.

Catholics are more likely to be Democrats,, whether they are hispanic or not.

[whatthehey]

56. Try comparing them to atheists then

[pnwmom]

58. Why did you pick on Catholics instead of all theists, then? Catholics and Jews

are more likely to be Democrats than other white theists.

And the wording in that flier sounds much more like it was written by an envangelical Christian. In decades of going to different Catholic churches across the country, I've never seen anything written like that piece anywhere.

[MADem]

51. Massachusetts (blue state) is one of the most Catholic states in the nation.

New York, too.

And they're Irish and Italian and Polish, many of them--not just Hispanics.

[MADem]

40. The title is at the link and the priest at the church ADMITTED to saying that you'd go to hell

if you vote "Democrat."

He insists that he didn't prepare the flyer, that an overzealous supporter went too far.

Nowadays, it is the rare church, mosque or synogogue that is 'left open' without someone in active, watchful attendance minding the store. It would be rather difficult for someone to infect all of the bulletins in that fashion without being noticed. This was a case of an overzealous parishioner PARROTING a bigoted priest (who admitted to the conduct--see the link).

The priest should be fired, or sent off to some hellhole in dire need of spiritual assistance, like maybe the village where that hell-bound VP candidate Tim Kaine did his missionary work, so he can get closer to God by suffering along with his flock--then maybe he'll get his "vote Democrat and go to hell" priorities straight.

[DemonGoddess]

45. The Pope himself wouldn't agree with what this priest did you know

[MADem]

49. I agree with that. He said "Who am I to judge?"

Near as I can tell, he wants his stewardship to focus on acts of charity, not admonitions.

[CajunBlazer]

23. BULLSHIT!!! I think the priest is deep trouble!

I grew up Catholic, my dad was a Deacon in the church, I graduated from a Catholic high school - I have never seen Catholic clergy get overtly involved in an election as I have seen some ministers of protestant denominations do. It just isn't done in the Catholic church. In addition, by law, tax exempt organizations can get politically involved or they can lose their tax exempt status. That alone should land this priest in hot water with his superiors.

It should be noted that polls show that the majority of Catholics are voting for Hillary.

Now are some very conservative Catholics that may be pushing this kind of crap - this priest is probably one of them. However, it should be also noted their new ultimate leader, the Pope, is not in a agreement are he would not have openly criticized Trump.

This incident should in no way reflect on the entire Catholic Church - I am a fallen away Catholic, but that would not be fair.

[DemonGoddess]

47. ^^^This!!!

[C_U_L8R]

26. Anyone who's dumb enough to believe that

deserves to be a Republican

[anamandujano]

27. Jesus would be so proud of these dipshits, NOT!

[kwolf68]

32. TAX THEM

Of course, that will NEVER happen, but it's high time.

[0rganism]

41. ^^^ this ^^^

[misterhighwasted]

34. They said that about the birth control pill also

What about molesting young boys and looking the "other way?"
Is the Church going to hell too?

Its cult patriarcy b.s.

[book_worm]

37. Well, then I'll be in good company

[Mad_Dem_X]

42. My mother-in-law is a devoted Catholic, but

she is also a registered Democrat. I'm sure she would just *love* to hear that she is going to Hell.

[rockfordfile]

50. Pull their Tax exemption

[SoCalNative]

52. Apparently

they have forgotten about the Kennedys.

[cloudbase]

53. Heaven for the climate,

hell for the company.

-Mark Twian

[MindPilot]

55. Ahh yes, that old "I didn't write it..." canard.

"My name was on it, it represents me and my organization, and I approved it, but I had no clue what was in it."

Where have we head that before...?

Or, "yeah I said some really awful over the top shit...I had no idea anybody would take me seriously!!"

[Vinca]

59. Sounds like politicking to me . . . tax 'em.

[BlueProgressive]

61. This Catholic church bulletin is

clearly under the influence of Satan...