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Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:38 PM Nov 2016

Guiliani admits he got intel from FBI: That means FBI broke law. Guiliani has no privilege.

Last edited Fri Nov 4, 2016, 05:36 PM - Edit history (2)

Update:
Ds in Congress now calling for probe based on Guiliani's comments. Beautiful. How's it feel, glass house dweller?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi-leak-hillary-clinton-donald-trump_us_581cece3e4b0e80b02ca024d

Original Post:

Looks like Guiliani admitted today that the FBI ("sources" probably retired) told him in advance of their activities v HRC. That is Guiliani telling the world that an agent or agents of the FBI broke the law.

The term "sources" is for reporters. A reporter gets to say "source" and that's generally understood to mean that they don't have to reveal names. But Rudy is not a reporter. He also doesn't seem to have other obvious ways to prevent disclosure of his "source." He isn't likely married to the agent. He doesn't have a lawyer/client relationship with the agent. That means he could be legally compelled to reveal who leaked it.

By the way, if you think the FBI leaking isn't a big deal--it is. Federal crime. Very bad. Even fox knows this.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/11/03/alan-dershowitz-fbi-breaking-law-with-leaks.amp.html?client=safari

Unless Rudy pleads the Fifth, he has to reveal his source. And honestly I don't see how a judge would allow him to invoke the Fifth. Hearing leaked info ain't illegal, and therefore there is no real possibility that testifying against the leaker would tend to incriminate him.

Rudy just did a (pretty) stupid thing.

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Guiliani admits he got intel from FBI: That means FBI broke law. Guiliani has no privilege. (Original Post) Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 OP
Tom Delay did the same EXACT thing in January of this year claiming an indictment was imminent bushisanidiot Nov 2016 #1
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2016 #35
Watch this & tell me Giuliani didn't know. Comey political conspiracy evidenced!!! Coyotl Nov 2016 #2
Ghouly is positively gleeful the alleged rapist and fraud will be in the WH soon! wordpix Nov 2016 #40
This hitting social media vadermike Nov 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #4
That's an excellent point. Huffpost video cut out prior Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 #11
Rudy is not a smart man these days. MineralMan Nov 2016 #5
No longer gnash well. nt canetoad Nov 2016 #39
There is a RW pipeline within the FBI that runs through Comey dalton99 Nov 2016 #6
I'll venture a guess that in this case, it was not a FBI leak but an order from Guiliani to invent anamandujano Nov 2016 #31
Why would he admit this? TrekLuver Nov 2016 #13
Because he is zealously pushing a "Clinton cash" narrative that HRC is facing indictment Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 #17
Well I declare him UNFIT to leak this information. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #22
According to Rachel (of TRMS) triron Nov 2016 #15
kick napkinz Nov 2016 #16
Investigate Trump and his inner circle because the FBI leakers let them into the conspiracy early workinclasszero Nov 2016 #18
Kicked. MaeScott Nov 2016 #21
KNR Lucinda Nov 2016 #24
talkin about security risks - republicans and their stooges are traitors it seems patsimp Nov 2016 #25
Let's see.... Christie. Guilliani, Gingrich and the Big-D world wide wally Nov 2016 #26
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #27
Telling us the election is rigged against him while bucolic_frolic Nov 2016 #29
FBI clean up bigbadR Nov 2016 #30
They admit these things because they know there will be no consequences. malthaussen Nov 2016 #33
Politically what Guiliani did was very very unskilled Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 #34
Lock him UP!!! Lock him UP!!! Lock him UP!!! JoePhilly Nov 2016 #41
Hubris is hell....... dawnie51 Nov 2016 #43
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bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
1. Tom Delay did the same EXACT thing in January of this year claiming an indictment was imminent
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:40 PM
Nov 2016

based on info he supposedly got from the FBI.

http://truthinmedia.com/house-leader-fbi-ready-to-indict-clinton/

The FBI needs to clean house. They are clearly misusing power for political gain.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
40. Ghouly is positively gleeful the alleged rapist and fraud will be in the WH soon!
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 06:47 PM
Nov 2016

Until DOJ comes knocking, asking who leaked. Then he won't be so happy

Response to Fahrenthold451 (Original post)

Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
11. That's an excellent point. Huffpost video cut out prior
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:59 PM
Nov 2016

Still means he would have to reveal retired FBI source, and that source undoubtedly is operating under the same security regulations. Just makes the ladder longer. But now I'll have to amend my comment to "What Rudy did was pretty stupid"

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
5. Rudy is not a smart man these days.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:45 PM
Nov 2016

I think he has slipped a gear or something. The teeth are worn out and no longer mesh well.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
31. I'll venture a guess that in this case, it was not a FBI leak but an order from Guiliani to invent
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 04:05 PM
Nov 2016

something that would hog the news.

Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
17. Because he is zealously pushing a "Clinton cash" narrative that HRC is facing indictment
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 01:33 PM
Nov 2016

And in his zeal he lost track of himself a bit.

triron

(21,999 posts)
15. According to Rachel (of TRMS)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 01:04 PM
Nov 2016

last nite it's because the FBI story was promulgated by Breitbart and the Trump campaign. So of course he knew.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. Investigate Trump and his inner circle because the FBI leakers let them into the conspiracy early
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 01:40 PM
Nov 2016
'We've got some stuff up our sleeve': Donald Trump's daughter-in-law hints that Republican nominee has an 'October surprise' to drop on Hillary Clinton
By NIKKI SCHWAB, U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 09:33 EDT, 24 October 2016 | UPDATED: 19:38 EDT, 24 October 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3866934/We-ve-got-stuff-sleeve-Donald-Trump-s-daughter-law-hints-Republican-nominee-October-surprise-drop-Hillary-Clinton.html

They obviously knew Comey was going rogue ahead of time by the 24th of Oct at least according to this article.

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
29. Telling us the election is rigged against him while
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 03:14 PM
Nov 2016
at the same time trying to rig the election himself!

Giuliani is just a portion of the overall strategy
 

bigbadR

(49 posts)
30. FBI clean up
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 03:34 PM
Nov 2016

If Hillary is elected, I for one will insist that she clean up the FBI, first by firing Comey and any agent or other employee who leaked to that fool Rudy.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
33. They admit these things because they know there will be no consequences.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 05:31 PM
Nov 2016

Clean up the FBI? Aye, a fine idea. Enforcing the damned law would be favorite, too.

-- Mal

Fahrenthold451

(436 posts)
34. Politically what Guiliani did was very very unskilled
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 05:38 PM
Nov 2016

Ending the day hearing calls from Congress for an investigation with you as a target is never a good thing.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
43. Hubris is hell.......
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:43 PM
Nov 2016

Ghouliani wanted so desperately to crow about helping to bury Hillary, he totally lost his mind, and as a former prosecutor, he admitted to a criminal leak. His need for approval and recognition overpowered his sense of self-preservation. That's how deep the hate goes with these people.

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