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We need the Senate, 538 is showing NOT good news. (Original Post) a kennedy Nov 2016 OP
screw 538, nt geek tragedy Nov 2016 #1
Is there another site that shows Dems taking back the Senate?? a kennedy Nov 2016 #3
Here, but it's only showing 56% Silent3 Nov 2016 #4
No and that Feingold Poll Thrill Nov 2016 #5
I had thought Feingold was a lock - uch. Want him back so badly n/t moonscape Nov 2016 #24
Follow Sam Wang BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #11
Oh, and Sam Wang (Princeton Election Consortium) has the odds up to 76%. Silent3 Nov 2016 #13
. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #8
Exorcise thineself of DXXXVIII JHan Nov 2016 #2
I'll take +5 - 51D-49R....538 asiliveandbreathe Nov 2016 #6
we'll have gridlock regardless. unblock Nov 2016 #7
Lots of ticket splitting it seems. vdogg Nov 2016 #10
538 shows hillary winning right now. -nt kevin881 Nov 2016 #12
Comey fucked up the Senate. That'll be his legacy in this race smorkingapple Nov 2016 #14
PEC triron Nov 2016 #15
WTF happened in IN? Just a few days ago it was showing the opposite result.... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2016 #16
RCP has it as tossup now, but I can't see radius777 Nov 2016 #19
That Todd Young is a tax cheat Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #23
Try pollster from huffington, they're at 91% for 50 or more Ds Rstrstx Nov 2016 #17
The consensus is that Democrats will gain 6 seats, 52-48. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #18
Good job, Mr. Comey! PS: Senate elections look worse in 2018. FormerDittoHead Nov 2016 #22
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
8. .
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:01 PM
Nov 2016
http://elections.dailykos.com/app/elections/2016

(more accurate than 538, btw)

Democrats need to win 5 of the following:

Illinois
Wisconsin
Pennsylvania
Nevada
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Missouri
Indiana
Florida

Three of those are looking very good (PA, IL, WI) and a fourth is also looking good due to GOTV (NV).

That means if they win IN, or NC, or NH, or MO, they retake the Senate.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
7. we'll have gridlock regardless.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:00 PM
Nov 2016

at a minimum, the house will remain republican.

which means, they'll pass nothing except absolutely essential stuff -- any even that they'll hold hostage.

a democratic senate will be nice for nominations, particularly judges, but republicans can still filibuster supreme court justices.
in theory we can change the rules with a simple majority but in practice blue dogs are reluctant to support this, so it's unlikely unless we get *at least* 52 seats; that might not even be enough.

point is, legislative gridlock is all bug guaranteed. the only question is if we'll have nomination/appointment gridlock as well.

smorkingapple

(827 posts)
14. Comey fucked up the Senate. That'll be his legacy in this race
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:12 PM
Nov 2016

Once that came out any coattails she may have had were eliminated.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. RCP has it as tossup now, but I can't see
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 08:17 PM
Nov 2016

Bayh losing there, he's lead there consistently aside from the few polls, and is a guy who is liked there, even if it is a red state.



I guess it all comes down to the margin Trump gets there, and the degree of cross ticket voting.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
17. Try pollster from huffington, they're at 91% for 50 or more Ds
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:49 PM
Nov 2016

And they were one of the slowest models to come around, insisting until about 10 days ago that Rs had about a 2/3 chance of holding the senate

FormerDittoHead

(5,155 posts)
22. Good job, Mr. Comey! PS: Senate elections look worse in 2018.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Nov 2016

The Senate was their fallback position.

And things are going to get worse:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/even-if-democrats-win-the-senate-in-2016-their-majority-is-unlikely-to-endure/2016/10/23/443b9bec-9930-11e6-b4c9-391055ea9259_story.html

The numbers for that year are stunning: 25 Democratic or Democratic-affiliated independents are up for reelection, compared with just eight Republicans. That’s as lopsided an election cycle as you will ever see.

But a look inside the numbers makes the Democrats’ challenge in 2018 all the more daunting. Fully 20 percent of the 25 Democratic seats are in states that then-Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney carried in 2012 (and even Trump is likely to carry on Nov. 8): Indiana, Missouri, Montana, North Dakota and West Virginia.

All five Democratic incumbents in those states are expected to run for reelection, a prospect that gives Democrats a chance in each. But with 2018 looking almost certain to be the first midterm election of a Hillary Clinton presidency, it’s hard to see how her party avoids major losses in red states.
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