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MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:30 PM Nov 2016

Meliana Trump can loose US Citizenship, there is precedent, she must be tried and deported

To where the heck she came from...

http://www.ocregister.com/news/ahmadzai-173471-citizenship-appeal.html

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As a child, Ahmadzai and his family fled the war in his native Afghanistan and was granted asylum in the United States. He obtained a green card and became a U.S. citizen in 1994.

Years later, federal immigration officials realized Ahmadzai had failed to disclose on his citizenship paperwork that he had past convictions for false impersonation, drug sales and battery. They brought a case against him for naturalization fraud, which he lost last year.

That led U.S. District Court Judge James V. Selna to order that Ahmadzai be stripped of his U.S. citizenship if he fails to win his case on appeal.

"It's as if the order is signed and post-dated," said David Kaloyanides, Ahmadzai's attorney.

Naturalized U.S. citizens can lose their status if they are found to have obtained their citizenship through fraudulent means -- but such cases are relatively uncommon, said Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office.

Wearing a mint green prison jumpsuit, Ahmadzai pleaded with the court to reduce his sentence due to his past collaboration with the Irvine police department as an informant on drug cases.

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Application for citizenship N-400 specifically ask following questions:



https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/n-400.pdf


12. Have you EVER persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion?

YES

22. Have you EVER committed, assisted in committing, or attempted to commit, a crime or offense for which you were NOT arrested?

YES

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Meliana Trump can loose US Citizenship, there is precedent, she must be tried and deported (Original Post) MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 OP
So, Trump wants to deport illegal immigrants who have committed a crime. Coyotl Nov 2016 #1
Thanks changed it... bottomline is people have lost citizenship due to lying on N-400 MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #5
do you really want to open this door? Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #4
The doors were already opened when Trump infront of entire US population threatened for following MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #6
I think you miss my point. Do we, as Democratic Party members really want to Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #9
Start? Mika Nov 2016 #18
omg, this is one of those threads where no one gathers what I am saying Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #25
No, but we have to point out the hypocrisy. radius777 Nov 2016 #27
I TOTALLY agree with that, and hope the media screams this for the next 4 days Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #28
Do you really think we have the power to open this door. It's up to the press if they cover it or TrekLuver Nov 2016 #10
I was too vague. See my reply above as to what I meant. Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #12
I don't want to deport her...I just want to the press to cover this story and make a big TrekLuver Nov 2016 #19
Does this technically make her an illegal immigrant and Barron an anchor baby? NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #7
This is where I tend to be a bad liberal NastyWomen Nov 2016 #31
This is were I disagree... Baron is a child and he is not in this equation, keep him out of this. MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #36
This is trending on Twitter...even stupid Clint Eastwood tweeted about it that Hillary's camp TrekLuver Nov 2016 #8
Uh, no. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #16
Yes Except HE is the one raving about deporting illegal immigrants...and that's a fact. TrekLuver Nov 2016 #20
The AP is free ... NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #23
Ok well Joy Reid was spewing it too....tweeting about it like crazy and I'm sure we'll hear her TrekLuver Nov 2016 #29
So what? NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #32
So what what? This is yet another example of his hypocrisy. I'm not looking to change stupid TrekLuver Nov 2016 #33
I have been. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #35
I do not think we want to change hearts at this stage, the narrative will change and Trump MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #34
Not like he has one but maybe this will drag him "off message" ..one last meltdown for the road. lol TrekLuver Nov 2016 #37
Again, so what? NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author TrekLuver Nov 2016 #39
Exactly. Trump has spent a year screaming that ALL illegals MUST be deported. Why in the world anneboleyn Nov 2016 #26
+1. This hypocrisy must be called out by the MSM. radius777 Nov 2016 #30
the irony is delicious though.. JHan Nov 2016 #24
i Completely agree. Deport her. patsimp Nov 2016 #17
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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. So, Trump wants to deport illegal immigrants who have committed a crime.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:34 PM
Nov 2016

Maybe he knows who that includes ....

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
5. Thanks changed it... bottomline is people have lost citizenship due to lying on N-400
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:39 PM
Nov 2016

N-400 specifically ask following questions:

12. Have you EVER persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion?

YES

22. Have you EVER committed, assisted in committing, or attempted to commit, a crime or offense for which you were NOT arrested?

YES

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
6. The doors were already opened when Trump infront of entire US population threatened for following
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:40 PM
Nov 2016

1. Ask people to kill his opponent
2. Jail his opponent

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
9. I think you miss my point. Do we, as Democratic Party members really want to
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:48 PM
Nov 2016

starting barking for people to deported? Law of unintended consequences will kick in shortly after that.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
25. omg, this is one of those threads where no one gathers what I am saying
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:16 AM
Nov 2016

I am saying that it would be hypocritical for us Dems to start demanding deportation, especially as it was literally for a small amount of work, just several weeks (the last one was only THREE DAYS from the Visa issuance) before she got the Visa.

She should pay a fine. Make it 1 million USD, hell yes. But, the OP is daft as her escapades do not rise to the legal level required for citizenship to be stripped.

And now my MAIN point.

Lets say I am wrong, and she IS stripped and deported.

Do you realise the violence and raving rage from the Trump scum (the racists and loons will not simply disappear after the orange one loses) when they see millions of undocumented people in the US who are never touched, but their demigod's wife is run out on a rail? It will start a mini civil war in some places, and shitgibon would stir the pot to the extreme degree. Plus, we are the party of compassion, and acceptance, and helping undocumented get pathway to citizenship, not the party of "deport them".


PS

I do not care what colour she is (I have a friend here in London, from Canada, lived in the USA (Atlanta, GA) for years, rich white family (Dr. and a barrister for parents), and the entire family was deported back to Canada over similar shit. Have Irish friends who were deported from the States too.

 

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)
28. I TOTALLY agree with that, and hope the media screams this for the next 4 days
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:20 AM
Nov 2016

I am saying it is bullshit to call for her to be stripped of her citizenship and deported.

Demanding that makes US the hypocrites as well.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
10. Do you really think we have the power to open this door. It's up to the press if they cover it or
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:49 PM
Nov 2016

not. I guarantee you that Joy Reid will be talking about it tomorrow she is tweeting up a storm about this.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
19. I don't want to deport her...I just want to the press to cover this story and make a big
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:01 AM
Nov 2016

deal out of it. We have quite the bonanza this weekend.

Nat'l Enqu affair squash story
Melania ain't legal story
Guiliani is working with active FBI agents
Christie is going down in flames
Sununu's "joke"

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
7. Does this technically make her an illegal immigrant and Barron an anchor baby?
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:43 PM
Nov 2016

I don't think people should go after Barron...not his fault his father is a tang colored douche...just find it kind or ironic given Trump's position on children born in the US or illegal immigrant parents.

 

NastyWomen

(119 posts)
31. This is where I tend to be a bad liberal
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:32 AM
Nov 2016

I am of the opinion that the apple always falls directly under the tree and little baron will likely be a monster just like the other trump spawn. Send them all to Siberia to protect future generations of Americans. Of course I'm joking.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
8. This is trending on Twitter...even stupid Clint Eastwood tweeted about it that Hillary's camp
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:43 PM
Nov 2016

is "desperate"... Oh goody goody gumdrops. Plus the Sununu story is getting play tooooooo I'm feeling really really good right now!!!!!!!!!!

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
16. Uh, no.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:56 PM
Nov 2016

This is ridiculous, and smacks of desperation.

TRUMP is running for president, not Melania.

Let's stick to the facts about HIM - which are as disturbing as they are plentiful - and leave his wife out of it.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
20. Yes Except HE is the one raving about deporting illegal immigrants...and that's a fact.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:02 AM
Nov 2016

You should send an email to the Associated Press and let them know it smacks of desperation.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
29. Ok well Joy Reid was spewing it too....tweeting about it like crazy and I'm sure we'll hear her
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:29 AM
Nov 2016

spewing about it in the am.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
32. So what?
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:39 AM
Nov 2016

We are literally hours away from the election.

How many Trump supporters do you think are going to have their minds changed by this? Would they be the same people whose minds weren't changed by a pussy-grabbing racist who mocks the disabled and calls vets with PTSD "weak"?



 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
33. So what what? This is yet another example of his hypocrisy. I'm not looking to change stupid
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:41 AM
Nov 2016

Trump voters...I just want the news cycle to change and go back to bad press for him. After a week of bad coverage for Hillary I'm ready to get back to Trashing Trump in earnest and these late breaking stories will help with that.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
35. I have been.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:47 AM
Nov 2016

Now explain to me how Melania's immigration status is relevant to anyone at this point in the game.

The Trump supporters will ignore it, and the HRC supporters will be voting for Hill as planned.

So how is any of this relevant?

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
34. I do not think we want to change hearts at this stage, the narrative will change and Trump
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:44 AM
Nov 2016

Campaign will go into defensive to protect MRS DONALD TRUMP 3, who has committed Federal Crime and his Husband wants to make it "GREAT".

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
37. Not like he has one but maybe this will drag him "off message" ..one last meltdown for the road. lol
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:51 AM
Nov 2016

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
38. Again, so what?
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:51 AM
Nov 2016

It doesn't change anything. Trump's supporters will not change their votes over this, and neither will HRC supporters.

So what does it matter?

Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #38)

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
26. Exactly. Trump has spent a year screaming that ALL illegals MUST be deported. Why in the world
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:16 AM
Nov 2016

would the revelation that his wife broke the immigration laws that he has made a cornerstone of his campaign not be significant -- actually rather yuuuuuuge?! An issue that he has screamed about at his rallies?! That has inspired his supporters to make all sorts of vile comments about immigrants? This story is absolutely significant, and it is fair game. Period.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
30. +1. This hypocrisy must be called out by the MSM.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 12:31 AM
Nov 2016

Trump has staked out a far-right white nationalist stance on immigration, where even the American born children (so-called "anchor babies) of those (PoC) immigrants who came here without perfectly following the rules, would be heartlessly deported (gestapo deportation squad).

"We have a country or we don't"
"Build a wall, deport them all."
"They have to go."
"We are a nation of laws."
-Donald J. Trump


Melania must not be spared simply because she is white and rich.

To be clear, I'm not calling for deportation, but the MSM must call out this hypocrisy. At the very least, it will get the Comey/emails bullshit off the air.

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