Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:30 PM
MyNameIsKhan (2,201 posts)
Meliana Trump can loose US Citizenship, there is precedent, she must be tried and deported
To where the heck she came from...
http://www.ocregister.com/news/ahmadzai-173471-citizenship-appeal.html ======= As a child, Ahmadzai and his family fled the war in his native Afghanistan and was granted asylum in the United States. He obtained a green card and became a U.S. citizen in 1994. Years later, federal immigration officials realized Ahmadzai had failed to disclose on his citizenship paperwork that he had past convictions for false impersonation, drug sales and battery. They brought a case against him for naturalization fraud, which he lost last year. That led U.S. District Court Judge James V. Selna to order that Ahmadzai be stripped of his U.S. citizenship if he fails to win his case on appeal. "It's as if the order is signed and post-dated," said David Kaloyanides, Ahmadzai's attorney. Naturalized U.S. citizens can lose their status if they are found to have obtained their citizenship through fraudulent means -- but such cases are relatively uncommon, said Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office. Wearing a mint green prison jumpsuit, Ahmadzai pleaded with the court to reduce his sentence due to his past collaboration with the Irvine police department as an informant on drug cases. ======== Application for citizenship N-400 specifically ask following questions: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/n-400.pdf 12. Have you EVER persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion? YES 22. Have you EVER committed, assisted in committing, or attempted to commit, a crime or offense for which you were NOT arrested? YES
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Author | Time | Post |
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MyNameIsKhan | Nov 2016 | OP |
Coyotl | Nov 2016 | #1 | |
MyNameIsKhan | Nov 2016 | #5 | |
Grey Lemercier | Nov 2016 | #4 | |
MyNameIsKhan | Nov 2016 | #6 | |
Grey Lemercier | Nov 2016 | #9 | |
Mika | Nov 2016 | #18 | |
Grey Lemercier | Nov 2016 | #25 | |
radius777 | Nov 2016 | #27 | |
Grey Lemercier | Nov 2016 | #28 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #10 | |
Grey Lemercier | Nov 2016 | #12 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #19 | |
NoGoodNamesLeft | Nov 2016 | #7 | |
NastyWomen | Nov 2016 | #31 | |
MyNameIsKhan | Nov 2016 | #36 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #8 | |
NanceGreggs | Nov 2016 | #16 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #20 | |
NanceGreggs | Nov 2016 | #23 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #29 | |
NanceGreggs | Nov 2016 | #32 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #33 | |
NanceGreggs | Nov 2016 | #35 | |
MyNameIsKhan | Nov 2016 | #34 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #37 | |
NanceGreggs | Nov 2016 | #38 | |
TrekLuver | Nov 2016 | #39 | |
anneboleyn | Nov 2016 | #26 | |
radius777 | Nov 2016 | #30 | |
JHan | Nov 2016 | #24 | |
patsimp | Nov 2016 | #17 | |
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Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:34 PM
Coyotl (15,262 posts)
1. So, Trump wants to deport illegal immigrants who have committed a crime.
Maybe he knows who that includes ....
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Response to Coyotl (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:39 PM
MyNameIsKhan (2,201 posts)
5. Thanks changed it... bottomline is people have lost citizenship due to lying on N-400
N-400 specifically ask following questions:
12. Have you EVER persecuted (either directly or indirectly) any person because of race, religion, national origin, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion? YES 22. Have you EVER committed, assisted in committing, or attempted to commit, a crime or offense for which you were NOT arrested? YES |
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:38 PM
Grey Lemercier (1,429 posts)
4. do you really want to open this door?
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Response to Grey Lemercier (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
MyNameIsKhan (2,201 posts)
6. The doors were already opened when Trump infront of entire US population threatened for following
1. Ask people to kill his opponent
2. Jail his opponent |
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 PM
Grey Lemercier (1,429 posts)
9. I think you miss my point. Do we, as Democratic Party members really want to
starting barking for people to deported? Law of unintended consequences will kick in shortly after that.
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Response to Grey Lemercier (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:58 PM
Mika (17,751 posts)
18. Start?
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Response to Mika (Reply #18)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:16 PM
Grey Lemercier (1,429 posts)
25. omg, this is one of those threads where no one gathers what I am saying
I am saying that it would be hypocritical for us Dems to start demanding deportation, especially as it was literally for a small amount of work, just several weeks (the last one was only THREE DAYS from the Visa issuance) before she got the Visa.
She should pay a fine. Make it 1 million USD, hell yes. But, the OP is daft as her escapades do not rise to the legal level required for citizenship to be stripped. And now my MAIN point. Lets say I am wrong, and she IS stripped and deported. Do you realise the violence and raving rage from the Trump scum (the racists and loons will not simply disappear after the orange one loses) when they see millions of undocumented people in the US who are never touched, but their demigod's wife is run out on a rail? It will start a mini civil war in some places, and shitgibon would stir the pot to the extreme degree. Plus, we are the party of compassion, and acceptance, and helping undocumented get pathway to citizenship, not the party of "deport them". PS I do not care what colour she is (I have a friend here in London, from Canada, lived in the USA (Atlanta, GA) for years, rich white family (Dr. and a barrister for parents), and the entire family was deported back to Canada over similar shit. Have Irish friends who were deported from the States too. |
Response to Grey Lemercier (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:17 PM
radius777 (3,406 posts)
27. No, but we have to point out the hypocrisy.
"We have a country or we don't" - Donald J. Trump
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Response to radius777 (Reply #27)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:20 PM
Grey Lemercier (1,429 posts)
28. I TOTALLY agree with that, and hope the media screams this for the next 4 days
I am saying it is bullshit to call for her to be stripped of her citizenship and deported.
Demanding that makes US the hypocrites as well. |
Response to Grey Lemercier (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:49 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
10. Do you really think we have the power to open this door. It's up to the press if they cover it or
not. I guarantee you that Joy Reid will be talking about it tomorrow she is tweeting up a storm about this.
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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:51 PM
Grey Lemercier (1,429 posts)
12. I was too vague. See my reply above as to what I meant.
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Response to Grey Lemercier (Reply #12)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:01 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
19. I don't want to deport her...I just want to the press to cover this story and make a big
deal out of it. We have quite the bonanza this weekend.
Nat'l Enqu affair squash story Melania ain't legal story Guiliani is working with active FBI agents Christie is going down in flames Sununu's "joke" |
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
NoGoodNamesLeft (2,056 posts)
7. Does this technically make her an illegal immigrant and Barron an anchor baby?
I don't think people should go after Barron...not his fault his father is a tang colored douche...just find it kind or ironic given Trump's position on children born in the US or illegal immigrant parents.
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Response to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #7)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:32 PM
NastyWomen (119 posts)
31. This is where I tend to be a bad liberal
I am of the opinion that the apple always falls directly under the tree and little baron will likely be a monster just like the other trump spawn. Send them all to Siberia to protect future generations of Americans. Of course I'm joking.
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Response to NastyWomen (Reply #31)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:48 PM
MyNameIsKhan (2,201 posts)
36. This is were I disagree... Baron is a child and he is not in this equation, keep him out of this.
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
8. This is trending on Twitter...even stupid Clint Eastwood tweeted about it that Hillary's camp
is "desperate"... Oh goody goody gumdrops. Plus the Sununu story is getting play tooooooo I'm feeling really really good right now!!!!!!!!!!
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Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:56 PM
NanceGreggs (27,595 posts)
16. Uh, no.
This is ridiculous, and smacks of desperation.
TRUMP is running for president, not Melania. Let's stick to the facts about HIM - which are as disturbing as they are plentiful - and leave his wife out of it. |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:02 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
20. Yes Except HE is the one raving about deporting illegal immigrants...and that's a fact.
You should send an email to the Associated Press and let them know it smacks of desperation.
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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:09 PM
NanceGreggs (27,595 posts)
23. The AP is free ...
... to spew whatever they want to. That doesn't make it relevant.
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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:29 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
29. Ok well Joy Reid was spewing it too....tweeting about it like crazy and I'm sure we'll hear her
spewing about it in the am.
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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #29)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:39 PM
NanceGreggs (27,595 posts)
32. So what?
We are literally hours away from the election.
How many Trump supporters do you think are going to have their minds changed by this? Would they be the same people whose minds weren't changed by a pussy-grabbing racist who mocks the disabled and calls vets with PTSD "weak"? |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:41 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
33. So what what? This is yet another example of his hypocrisy. I'm not looking to change stupid
Trump voters...I just want the news cycle to change and go back to bad press for him. After a week of bad coverage for Hillary I'm ready to get back to Trashing Trump in earnest and these late breaking stories will help with that.
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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #33)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:47 PM
NanceGreggs (27,595 posts)
35. I have been.
Now explain to me how Melania's immigration status is relevant to anyone at this point in the game.
The Trump supporters will ignore it, and the HRC supporters will be voting for Hill as planned. So how is any of this relevant? |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #32)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:44 PM
MyNameIsKhan (2,201 posts)
34. I do not think we want to change hearts at this stage, the narrative will change and Trump
Campaign will go into defensive to protect MRS DONALD TRUMP 3, who has committed Federal Crime and his Husband wants to make it "GREAT".
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Response to MyNameIsKhan (Reply #34)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:51 PM
TrekLuver (2,573 posts)
37. Not like he has one but maybe this will drag him "off message" ..one last meltdown for the road. lol
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Reply #34)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:51 PM
NanceGreggs (27,595 posts)
38. Again, so what?
It doesn't change anything. Trump's supporters will not change their votes over this, and neither will HRC supporters.
So what does it matter? |
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Response to TrekLuver (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:16 PM
anneboleyn (5,611 posts)
26. Exactly. Trump has spent a year screaming that ALL illegals MUST be deported. Why in the world
would the revelation that his wife broke the immigration laws that he has made a cornerstone of his campaign not be significant -- actually rather yuuuuuuge?! An issue that he has screamed about at his rallies?! That has inspired his supporters to make all sorts of vile comments about immigrants? This story is absolutely significant, and it is fair game. Period.
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Response to anneboleyn (Reply #26)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:31 PM
radius777 (3,406 posts)
30. +1. This hypocrisy must be called out by the MSM.
Trump has staked out a far-right white nationalist stance on immigration, where even the American born children (so-called "anchor babies) of those (PoC) immigrants who came here without perfectly following the rules, would be heartlessly deported (gestapo deportation squad).
"We have a country or we don't" "Build a wall, deport them all." "They have to go." "We are a nation of laws." -Donald J. Trump Melania must not be spared simply because she is white and rich. To be clear, I'm not calling for deportation, but the MSM must call out this hypocrisy. At the very least, it will get the Comey/emails bullshit off the air. |
Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #16)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
JHan (10,173 posts)
24. the irony is delicious though..
Response to MyNameIsKhan (Original post)
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:58 PM
patsimp (915 posts)