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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,920 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:00 PM Nov 2016

Don’t like Trump’s piggish prejudice? Blame the world of golf.

At its best, the game of golf is both noble and common.

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But at its worst, golf is a game of lying, cheating, blaming and gambling. At its worst, the culture of private golf courses propagates misogyny, racism, exploitation of undocumented labor and unchecked privilege.

Golf, at its worst, is Donald Trump.

The relevance of golf to understanding Trump should have been clear all along. Golf courses feature prominently among his branding ventures. And if you catch a rerun of an old interview with Trump on the Golf Channel, what stands out is how earnestly happy he is when talking about the subject — a completely different person than the disgruntled bundle of id on display at his political rallies. In June, Trump even made the unorthodox choice to visit Scotland in the middle of the campaign. Some upstart candidates for president, feeling green about matters of international import, visit foreign leaders during their campaigns to open dialogue. Trump went only to open a golf course — and praise his immigrant mother from golf’s country of origin.

But there’s an ungentlemanly side to this gentlemen’s game, with which Trump seems well acquainted. The dark side of golf culture helps to unlock Trump’s worldview and behavior. Consider, for instance, that he used the phrase “locker-room banter” in his official statement that tried to explain away his foul behavior recorded on a leaked Access Hollywood tape obtained by The Washington Post. The phrase didn’t make much sense, especially coming from Trump. Athletes were offended by the analogy, saying that no one talks like this in locker rooms. And in any case, when was the last time Trump was in a locker room?

The truth is that Trump does go to locker rooms and that privileged, misogynist old men do really talk like this in locker rooms — locker rooms at private golf courses. In his official statement, Trump even tried to normalize his misogyny by reference to golf: “Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course — not even close.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/dont-like-trumps-piggish-prejudice-blame-the-world-of-golf/

I think someone made this point in a post a while back. Those of us who work out generally have not heard comments like "grab 'em by the pussy" in a locker room. I've never golfed and if I did I couldn't afford the fees at an exclusive country club.

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Don’t like Trump’s piggish prejudice? Blame the world of golf. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2016 OP
I've hung out with rich privileged people lapfog_1 Nov 2016 #1
No. I blame him and anyone who agrees with him. Avalux Nov 2016 #2
Trump is trashy and ill-bred Generic Other Nov 2016 #3

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. I've hung out with rich privileged people
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:14 PM
Nov 2016

and on golf courses across the country.

I married into a wealthy family... my father-in-law was executive Vice President of a major oil company. I traveled the US on his company operated (for him personally) Gulf Stream... his other daughter (my sister-in-law) married into a very old newspaper family. I played golf with all of them and their rich and connected friends.

I heard overt racism in the locker rooms. I even heard the occasional curse word (but not on the course).

I never heard anyone say "grab 'em by the pussy".

And yes, I am aware of the obscene gambling (and I play poker occasionally) that goes on all the time, the side bets and stupid things and cheating... and it reminds me of why I would never fit in living in a frat house.

overt racism... check - Misogyny... you bet... - "grab em by the pussy" and sexual assault? No. At least not in my experience.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
2. No. I blame him and anyone who agrees with him.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:17 PM
Nov 2016

Golf can't be blamed.

These people are adults are responsible for what comes out of their mouths and how they act. There is a severe lack of personal responsibility among that crowd. Don't allow them to blame their bad behavior on the game of golf.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
3. Trump is trashy and ill-bred
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 01:41 PM
Nov 2016

He has not gained entry into the world of the elite old money despite his wealth. They find him vulgar and crass. Like the Gottis. I can't imagine him being invited to Buckingham Palace. He will not even get an invitation to dine with Bushes or Kennedys. The real old money in America will not roll out a red carpet or set out the fine china for his ilk. And it probably irks him no end.

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