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4lbs

(6,855 posts)
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 04:47 PM Nov 2016

Hillary's magic EV number is 195.

The magic number is 195.

That is the number of Electoral Votes that Hillary Clinton needs by 10:00pm Eastern (7:00pm Pacific) on Tuesday night to guarantee victory.

How? Well, with 270 EV total needed, Hillary Clinton's West Coast "blue wall" will be activated at 11:00pm Eastern (8:00pm Pacific) when the polls close out here in the west.

She has a 99.5% chance of winning all 4 main Western states: California, Washington, Oregon, and Hawaii.

California, where she is up by 24 points, is worth 55 EV.

Washington, where she is up by 14 points, is worth 12 EV.
Oregon, where she is up by 10 points, is worth 7 EV.
Hawaii, where she is up by 22 points, is worth 4 EV.

That is a total of 78 EV.

78 + 195 = 273.

I added in a 3 EV cushion.


Thus, again, once Hillary reaches 195 EV by 10:00pm Eastern on Tuesday night, the election is over. The west coast "blue wall" will come in like a tidal wave at 11:00pm Eastern.

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regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
10. Don't count on "by 10:00 P.M. Eastern" unless it's a real blowout…
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:18 PM
Nov 2016

While your electoral math is correct, many large, crucial eastern states take a long time to deliver final results, especially in close races. If the vote is tight enough, I could easily see FL, NC, and even PA not being called until after the west coast has reported. Also, keep in mind that crucial swing states include CO (Mountain Time) and Nevada, where polls close at the same time as the west coast.

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
11. True. However, in 2012, many of the states' results were in by 10:00pm Eastern and I did the math
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:21 PM
Nov 2016

back then too. I knew once Obama reached 195 at that time, the election was over. They just didn't formalize it until later.

Same thing in 2008. Obama reached 195 by then, and only the last 80 EV total were to be calculated. Obama easily had 270 by 11:00pm Eastern in 2008.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
12. except that for states with early voting.....
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:25 PM
Nov 2016

Those votes will be counted quickly. Elections have been called with far less than 70% of the vote in, and some states will be over 50% ev.

Florida and NC could come quickly.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. dKos at 319-219 now, 90% probability Hillary wins.
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 05:36 PM
Nov 2016

This has hardly budged for quite a while now, was 323 before Comey went rogue

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
14. How interesting. A family member predicted over
Sat Nov 5, 2016, 06:37 PM
Nov 2016

a month ago that they would announce Hillary won before we get to the Mountain Time zone. In other words, exactly what you are saying, by the time the polls close on the East coast she will have already won.

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