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Silent3

(15,201 posts)
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 09:46 AM Nov 2016

Here's a long-shot hope for control of the House I'd like to entertain

Hillary Clinton wins the presidency, we gain control of the Senate, and pick up a few more seats in the House, enough to narrow the gap.

The long-shot part of this that I'm considering is a long shot because time and time again, when I thought Trump would rip the Republican party apart, somehow that never happened. They never unified to defeat Trump in the primaries, the #nevertrump movement mostly fizzled, no significant moves were made at the convention to challenge Trump's nomination, Republicans who can barely make themselves say Trump's name, preferring only indirect references like "our candidate", still stood behind him even when condemning the latest Trump outrage of the day.

But maybe, just maybe, the actual loss of this election, when there's no longer any hope that sticking together gains the Republicans anything, the the cracks in the party will open wide and the damn will finally break.

One faction, sadly, will be the worst of the deplorables, bound together, if by nothing else, fanatical Hillary hatred.

But there have got to be a few Republicans, even among those who cravenly stuck by Trump and the rest of the crazy radicalization of the Republican party purely out of political expediency, who might be ready to jump off the sinking ship.

Could there be enough House Republicans who would either switch to the Democratic Party, or at least declare themselves Independents who caucus with the Democrats, to give us control of the House too? Reaching such a bargain might require agreeing on a more conservative Democrat than Pelosi to be Speaker in this hypothetical coalition.

Is this at least conceivable to anyone else here, or am I out of my mind?

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Here's a long-shot hope for control of the House I'd like to entertain (Original Post) Silent3 Nov 2016 OP
I doubt it. longship Nov 2016 #1
Only a few conservatives might leave the Repugnants BSdetect Nov 2016 #3
If the Democrats take the Presidency and the Senate and the House got down... PoliticAverse Nov 2016 #4

longship

(40,416 posts)
1. I doubt it.
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 10:42 AM
Nov 2016

Remember the Tea Partiers? They control the House of Representatives now. And a good part of the US Senate. Any Dem gains in the House will be ours alone, Gerrymandering notwithstanding.

Any crossovers will be very rare, as they are now.

Remember, the GOP has gone completely and utterly barking mad. And I mean major doses of Thorazine mad!

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. If the Democrats take the Presidency and the Senate and the House got down...
Sun Nov 6, 2016, 11:20 AM
Nov 2016

to where there was only a 1 vote Republican majority someone would be in a really good bargaining
position. The bigger the Republican majority remaining the less the incentive to switch. I don't see
a Democratic speaker being elected with a Republican majority still remaining but someone might
use their bargaining position to get a better committee chair or some future pork in a bill.


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