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misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 10:51 AM Nov 2016

Ahhhh yes. The poll map we've waited to see!!!

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NBC's final battleground map: Clinton 274, Trump 170, 94 in Tossup http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/nbc-s-final-battleground-map-shows-clinton-edge-n678926





Ok I'm goingwith this map.
Will be interesting, after the dust clears, to compare this one against the final cut.

Seriously? The deep Red Dakotas, Kansas, in the "lean R" collumn ??

I believe this is a more realistic map than what we have been seeing.

Cool huh!

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Ahhhh yes. The poll map we've waited to see!!! (Original Post) misterhighwasted Nov 2016 OP
Actually very cool. Fahrenthold451 Nov 2016 #1
Kornacki's comments DeminPennswoods Nov 2016 #3
It's become obvious they are being pushed by management to create an illusion of a tight race.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #13
Nice to see but I do not see KS as leaning red but very, very red, few electoral votes but unless EV_Ares Nov 2016 #4
Agree. KA leaning? That is hard to believe. misterhighwasted Nov 2016 #9
I do know that in Johnson County Kansas, right across the state line from Kansas City, Hillary is EV_Ares Nov 2016 #19
Blue Kansas would be an unexpected win. GOP would be unconsolable. misterhighwasted Nov 2016 #21
doesn't include new hampshire, florida, and north carolina Tom Rivers Nov 2016 #5
Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Arizona will go blue Botany Nov 2016 #6
I agree going now to canvass in Trumbull Country. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #8
Thank you for volunteering!! bettyellen Nov 2016 #14
in the end I really don't think OH is gonna be close but the one thing that is very ..... Botany Nov 2016 #15
Taking a lunch break...good luck...hear the line today was very long in Columbus Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #20
GA and AZ tossups! treestar Nov 2016 #7
He nudged the MoE a bit higher to make his predictions. It puts more states in play. Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #11
Wow. Talk about risk averse. His threshholds for likely and lean are the most conservative I've seen Buzz Clik Nov 2016 #10
Lol. In other words..they have no idea. misterhighwasted Nov 2016 #12
It helps motivate GOTV! treestar Nov 2016 #17
So all that yellow could go red....and we still win. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #16

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
3. Kornacki's comments
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
Nov 2016

At the end of showing this map, Kornacki finally admitted to throwing out as many disclaimers as he could, but it was clear he knows Trump can't really win.

AZ, TX, FL are lean R due to the large Latino/Hispanic early vote.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. It's become obvious they are being pushed by management to create an illusion of a tight race....
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:17 AM
Nov 2016

No one is calling them on this bullshit either.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
4. Nice to see but I do not see KS as leaning red but very, very red, few electoral votes but unless
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
Nov 2016

something has changed?

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
9. Agree. KA leaning? That is hard to believe.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:08 AM
Nov 2016

But then this whole year has been pretty unpredictable.
I have no answer for those deep red states in the leaning R column.
Maybe people are more sensible than we thought.
The silent ones this season.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
19. I do know that in Johnson County Kansas, right across the state line from Kansas City, Hillary is
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 01:20 PM
Nov 2016

ahead of Trump by 10 points. That is consistent with suburbs across the country with above average income & college degrees. I always call Johnson County smart republican voters. They are liberal in their social beliefs but more conservative in fiscal. I am still to the left of them but still good.

I would love to see KS go blue tomorrow night though so will keep my hopes high.

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
5. doesn't include new hampshire, florida, and north carolina
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
Nov 2016

all three of which i think will go to hillary. ohio is probably the true tossup of this election, every poll has been tight throughout. arizona and georgia i think lean trump but it depends on hispanic turnout.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
6. Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Arizona will go blue
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:04 AM
Nov 2016

Georgia and Texas might be in play.

I live in OH and the early voting has been very strong for HRC and Trump has
zero ground game here.

W.V., TN, & KY are examples of people voting aginst their own best interests.
And BTW those coal jobs are not coming back for a number of reasons not the
least of which is that natural gas is cleaner and cheaper.

Botany

(70,483 posts)
15. in the end I really don't think OH is gonna be close but the one thing that is very .....
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:18 AM
Nov 2016

.... strong and that is some people hate Hillary because of all of the crap and the lies that
have thrown against the Clintons since their days in Arkansas. If you run into any of "them*"
walk away and don't spend a second talking to them because they are lost anyway.


* Rush, Fox, Breitbart, News Max, Drudge, and many Republicans have fed their hate for years.
One Trump supporter rents a place in the same apartment as my son and he really doesn't have
a pot to pee in but he has all of his Trump signs up. (Summit County)

I'll be doing election protection work tomorrow in Columbus.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
11. He nudged the MoE a bit higher to make his predictions. It puts more states in play.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:14 AM
Nov 2016

It's an interesting approach.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
10. Wow. Talk about risk averse. His threshholds for likely and lean are the most conservative I've seen
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:10 AM
Nov 2016

At least he's consistent.

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On edit: I looked up this graphic from earlier this morning:



He's kinda sorta going NPR's way on this.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
12. Lol. In other words..they have no idea.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:14 AM
Nov 2016

I think they cannot predict so easily because the Latino & AA vote is the monkey wrench in the mix.

Actually Trump has been such an abominable candidate & that in itself is the biggest factor.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. It helps motivate GOTV!
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:21 AM
Nov 2016

For those idiots who would not bother if they thought she were too far ahead!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,166 posts)
16. So all that yellow could go red....and we still win.
Mon Nov 7, 2016, 11:20 AM
Nov 2016

They won't go red. My prediction is a majority of them go blue.

341-197. I'm calling it now.

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