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MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:19 PM Nov 2016

I was embarrassingly wrong in my predictions.

I got it all wrong, and am still trying to puzzle my way to an understanding of that. Many people were equally wrong, too. We need to understand why and recalculate before the midterm elections. That's job one for me now.

We lost this, and the cost is likely to be high. We must find a way to reverse this ASAP. We can only do that by coming together, I believe.

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beaglelover

(3,463 posts)
1. That's OK, you're not the only one.
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:24 PM
Nov 2016

We were mislead by the majority of the polls. I'm never trusting another poll again.

Yukari Yakumo

(3,013 posts)
18. Not exactly
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:47 PM
Nov 2016

But everyone should pay more attention to the fine print that comes with the polls. Most people overlooked the margin of error and how close the state polls really were. And, just as important, the Undecided voters. This year, that group broke hard for Trump, and in a close race, it was enough to put him over the top.

mcar

(42,288 posts)
3. Everyone got it wrong, MM
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:25 PM
Nov 2016

I'm still heartbroken.

I will be at the Million Woman March with my husband, sons and DIL. We will overcome.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
12. I will be there too!
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 10:38 PM
Nov 2016

In fact, reading about it and signing up were the two things that got me out of my total despair. I am so impressed with the mobilization effort!

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
4. Don't feel too bad, OK? This one was different from all the others.
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:28 PM
Nov 2016

Practically everybody got it wrong---myself very much included.....

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
5. There is a quote by H.L. Mencken, usually misquoted, that many of us forgot
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:31 PM
Nov 2016

Here's the original: “No one in this world, so far as I know — and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me — has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

It is usually rewritten as “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

Don the Con know its truth. We had a higher opinion of our fellow citizens. We were wrong.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. It was a perfect storm of events, not just one thing.
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:33 PM
Nov 2016

Comey. The media (I will never forgive CNN for hiring Lewindowsky). Ivory tower celebrities such as Susan Sarandon. I don't think Trump expected to win. He is not only unqualified, he is unprepared and it shows even now.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
8. Join the club!
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 09:45 PM
Nov 2016

I'm so pissed off I can't even see straight any more. My goal over the next few weeks is going to be channeling white-hot rage into icy detachment and action.

So, the action part - still looking around, looking local and seeking local Democrats.

in the mean time, $50 to the ACLU and $50 to Planned Parenthood. Lifted the gloom for a few minutes. May have to do it again.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
13. Everyone was, MineralMan.
Tue Nov 15, 2016, 10:43 PM
Nov 2016

I am humiliated by Pennsylvania going red for the first time in 28 years. I was so sure Hillary would win PA.

MineralMan

(146,282 posts)
14. Interestingly enough, not too many minutes passed after
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:22 AM
Nov 2016

I posted this before a thread popped up discussing this thread on the Cave. At least three people posted copy and paste stuff from this thread there. Clearly, there are folks here, even now, who are far from being on our side.

And so it goes...

ismnotwasm

(41,973 posts)
15. Me too--I completely underestimated a number of factors
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:19 PM
Nov 2016

But I knew early on that night it was lost. I went to bed, refused to listen to news any electon coverage. I went to work the next day with so many shocked faces of co-workers, we were like what the hell just happened. Even ones who didn't like Hillary expected her to win--we knew Washington state at least, was definetly in Hilllary's camp.

I worked with certain patients who were very happy--not fun when you hurt so bad inside.

But yes--adversity tends to be a unifying force, and children, kids, middle school and high school kids some of who will be eligible to vote in 2 and 4 years--are out in my city streets protesting. We have resources. Time to educate and organize.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
16. You are one of millions who missed the mark.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:20 PM
Nov 2016

We need to understand why, but the far more important question is: What do we do now? How do we fight Trump?

We must understand why first, but too much Monday AM quarterbacking for too long is a waste of time.

You and I both worked hard for Hillary, and my one consolation is that Hillary won Colorado by almost 5%. I am blessed to live in a civilized city in a civilized state.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
17. I guess 538 was closest to the "truth". When I first joined I saw everybody loving 538
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:41 PM
Nov 2016

then when they changed Hill's chances I saw people spouting off against them. Suddenly they were discredited overnight because people didn't like their projections. I found that disturbing. Same thing with the media. A pundit or host says something you don't like or they didn't fact check enough it's immediately off with their heads.

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