"Not all Trump supporters are racist, but all of them decided that racism isnt a deal-breaker."

[Renew Deal]

Charles Gaba

Not all Trump supporters are racist, but all of them decided that racism isn’t a deal-breaker. End of story.

https://twitter.com/charles_gaba/status/796881726874251265

[manicraven]

1. Will they change their minds as the violence continues?

And will they grow concerned once they understand who Bannon is and what he represents?

[Renew Deal]

4. Only when it's directed at them

There is a lot of us vs them arguments coming from Trumpists

[Grey Lemercier]

12. hell no, there are millions who want to see red blood flow from brown and black bodies

Its like the chum is in the water and the great white sharks are primed up for brutal systemic violence imposed upon the "other", perhaps even killing them, hopefully, in their sick fucked up racist minds. They now, finally have an official mandate to air in public violent race-based rage that is a projection of every failure in their lives.

[Bucky]

2. That's exactly it. About 90% of Trump's vote were typical Republicans. But...

that last 10% were former Democratic voters who felt abandoned by party that no longer stands up for unions and working families against Wall Street. We'll only win them back if we stand up for them again, that is, if we get back to our roots.

[sheshe2]

7. Any Dem that voted for trump was never a Dem to begin with.

That or completely uneducated.

[boston bean]

9. Or racist or sexist. Anyone who doesn't think that exists in our party is naive.

[sheshe2]

10. Bingo....

Also does not make them a Dem in my book.

Only one in my family, my nieces husband. Breaks my heart, he has a daughter.

[Bucky]

13. Yes, some of our voters are uneducated. They matter too.

The narrow minded view that someone isn't a true Democrat because they've been hoodwinked by a racist con artist seems bizarre to me. They got conned because they were scared, because they hear about how their jobs are going away, because they used to work middle class jobs in factories and now work at Walmart for minimum wage and they can FEEL in their lives that the Democratic Party is now clubbing around with the Wall Street players who broke up and sold off their employer for a tidy profit.

If the Dems want the support of the betrayed working class, we've got to start by stop betraying them and start supporting them instead. Maybe they weren't culturally Democratic. But if WE are true to OUR heritage as Dems, we would earn their votes by protecting their jobs. Once they felt betrayed, it's no wonder they switched allegiance to the fraudulent huckster who promised--against all common sense--to bring their jobs back.

That's not shame on them; that's a shame on us. We've lost our way. Your view that it's all tribal--you're either a D or an R, a blue or a red, and so we don't event want their stupid support, is naive and self defeating. It's not what a leader does. A leader doesn't give up on people because they were fooled by a bad guy. A real leader gets to work and offers them a better choice. No votes "belong" to the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party owes its loyalty to the people who need its protection.

[sheshe2]

15. Woah!

Nice lecture, Bucky. Thanks for 'splaining.

Bye

[rusty quoin]

3. Yes...this

[andym]

5. Seems to be so.

And that is sad.

[DesertFlower]

6. it would have been a deal breaker for me

even if hillary said some of the things he said. you've got to have some moral decency.

[BlueProgressive]

8. So it seems.

I despise them for that-- especially some people I know that I thought would be better than that.

[DemonGoddess]

11. I call bullshit on that assumption

What Trumpler did throughout the election was bring the hidden racism and sexism out to the forefront. Unmasked an awful lot of people.

[Bucky]

14. It's so true it's a cliche by now: Most Trump voters aren't racist, but racism isn't a dealbreaker.

I find that horrifying.

But that said, I can't bring myself to scorn the voters who felt the desperation it took to vote for Trump. We can win them back. We HAVE to win them back. Staying in a state of unforgiving scorn will keep us in a 50-50 country. We have to offer a better way.

[haele]

16. I don't think we will win them back for a long time.

For whatever reason, they willingly bought the ticket to ride with the devil - and if people's lives get destroyed along the way, they won't want to admit they had anything to do with it.
Especially if they've profited even a little off the pain of others.

LBJ knew he was going to lose them when he pushed for Civil Rights. All those "kindly", loving grandparents, aunts and uncles who wanted to live their lives comfortably isolated from anyone else and their problems were not about to lift a finger to help a black family a couple counties over be able to vote or go to a restaurant.
It's sad, but there's too many people who can't cope living in a world that's more than 10 miles or so in any direction. They are all about the Clan (while not necessarily the Klan) - family and neighbors only, where everyone knows their place and any disruption is usually due to an unruly or impertinent youth who will eventually be reined in - or end up as the community "black sheep", destined for a "bad end".

And if there's no black or latino or gay people that they personally know, they don't care what happens to those people and resent having to even consider their issues. "Those people" belong far away on TV or in another world.
"Big City" folks are totally alien to them - because in the big city, people have to learn to ideologically flexible, to be aware of others they don't know, and have to learn to respect differences of culture and opinion just to be able to live in relative peace with their neighbors.

Haele

[Bucky]

18. Trump has engendered anger and resentment. It's a weak foundation.

The people who voted for him includes those who swallowed their concerns and voted for his promises of jobs and prosperity. When he fails to deliver on that, because he's started a tariff war (and lets pray that's the only war he starts), they will still be angry. They'll feel angry and betrayed.

They can be won back. But we have to have a plan to meet their concerns. It will be a different country in four years. Despair will be a huge temptation. We can only weather it if we can reaffirm our values and stand true to them now. I believe that means looking out for the working class--even those who were misled by a racist con artist.

[duffyduff]

22. Trump was a media manufactured candidate.

There was no movement of note for Trump--it was ENGINEERED FOR RATINGS AND AD REVENUE thanks to Jeff Zucker, a sociopath who deserves prison time for what he did. Trump engaged in demagoguery because he was NOT a serious candidate, proof of that being he had NO policy positions.

We don't need to win these entitled dudes back. They were never OURS because they are the idiots or sons and grandsons of idiots who voted for Ronald Reagan. They voted against their best economic interests again and again and again. You can't fix them. You can't educate them. They were RAISED this way to think they are entitled to good-paying jobs, to bitch and moan against women and minorities.

We need to cut them loose. Let them die off.

[TrekLuver]

24. It won't be so hard since the Trashpot Trump shit show will fail.

I also agree that not every Trashpot supporter is an outright racist. I'm disappointed that they voted for him in spite of his hateful campaign but they did. A lot of them had a personal ax to grind. A lot of them just hated Hillary.

[Bucky]

25. Which is part of what pisses me off. 80% of what people dislike about her isn't even true

It sickens me how a basically decent, patriotic person has been so utterly trashed like that.

I disagree with her approach to mollifying leverage capitalists who don't produce goods or jobs for the country--only wealth for themselves. But that's fairly minor political disagreement in a wide field of political consanguinity.

People who hate her are nitwits. Sadly, this made just the shade of difference in this election... as many of us feared all along.

[TrekLuver]

29. I know...but over 20 years of bashing and movies and books and videos about how "corrupt" they

are really just took a toll. She also made a few mistakes and then all these outside forces throwing their wrenches in.... I don't understand it...but it's over now...the Clinton's are "gone" ...the question I ask who is next in line for them to hate or vilify?

[duffyduff]

26. They are more misogynist than they are racist. It wasn't Hillary per se.

They are simple minded. They are not intelligent. They have to literally lose everything and be slapped in the head with any kind of sense before they come around, and I doubt it even then because of their upbringing.

I wouldn't waste any time with them. They have had THIRTY YEARS of elections, and they still vote the wrong way.

Cut them loose.

[duffyduff]

21. Yeah, it's all our fault.

You don't even understand the problem here.

These mostly white dudes are stupid, they are racist, and they are MISOGYNIST. They are UNREACHABLE because they were raised that way and get reinforcement for their stupidity and bigotry via hate radio and twisted cable news outlets.

You should scorn them because they HATE us, especially us women.

[gollygee]

17. Impact Intent

I don't care whether their intent was racist. They were fine with it and the impact is horribly racist, and anti-Semitic, and Islamophobic, and homophobic, and transphobic, and misogynist.

[Generator]

19. Don't forget sexual molesting-no problem

They fine with that too. I will never accept this con man as president. Ever. Ever.

[duffyduff]

20. They are racist and even more important misogynist.

Nobody should call them anything other than what they are, and that is morons.

[etherealtruth]

23. Hmmmm .... if you can support racist/ bigoted rhetoric and deeds ...

... (i.e "it's not a deal breaker&quot .... you are complicit in the racism and bigotry .... you are a racist/ bigot.

[SunSeeker]

27. K & R

[B Calm]

28. and some of them voted for Obama, not once, but twice.

Calling them racists is not going to win any of them back into
the party.

[Bear Creek]

30. Own it

They voted for him knowing full well that the nazis and kkk supported him and his speeches incited them and was done purposely. So their votes were for racism.