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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:46 PM Nov 2016

The single biggest thing that killed Hillary was the email scandal

I think it was bogus, most Dems do too.

But MANY people really think she broke the law and got off by being an elite in the government (never mind Trump's own corruption).

Nonetheless, maybe it was a huge mistake for Bernie to blow it off early on in the primaries.

If he'd taken it seriously, perhaps he could've won, or gotten her to have a better explanation for it.

Granted, I think there were so many factors against her, and I think she was royally screwed no matter what-- the election was rigged. But it is ironic that Bernie shot down the one thing that could've helped him and maybe helped us win.

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The single biggest thing that killed Hillary was the email scandal (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 OP
You are correct, most Dems think it was bullshit CanonRay Nov 2016 #1
Bernie didn't blow it off in whole. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #2
he didn't capitalize on it as much as he could have Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #3
I believe he did. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #6
CAPITALIZE on it???? LisaM Nov 2016 #7
I agree it was to his credit, I just thought it was ironic Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #9
The media did the same thing to her that they did to Gore in 2000 and we got the same result Va Lefty Nov 2016 #4
and the same thing they did to Kerry as well DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #5
agree totally Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #8
What I can't wrap my head around is 53% of white women voted for trump Va Lefty Nov 2016 #11
They are the same women who voted for Bush and McCain and Romney LisaM Nov 2016 #12
If that's true, it's only, only, only ... lake loon Nov 2016 #15
conservatism is a strong drug, apparently Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #17
Since she WON by a million votes and still counting, the biggest thing was the Electoral College Hekate Nov 2016 #10
I agree ... And Comey made it worse MyNameIsKhan Nov 2016 #13
It was the media. False equivalence. They utterly failed. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #14
So true. lake loon Nov 2016 #16
unless they actually WANTED Trump Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #18
if not the various talking heads, certainly those who own the media. Of course they wanted Trump. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #19
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. Bernie didn't blow it off in whole.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:51 PM
Nov 2016

He made his comment yet it was still a daily issue by other, including his surrogates. Sanders doesn't have the power you are attempting to give him credit for here. He benefited greatly from the server issue. Greatly.

Sanders ran a brilliant campaign. It wasn't enough. He could not have done better.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. I believe he did.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:56 PM
Nov 2016

There was nowhere for him to go on that one. It would have been like Clinton capitalizing on Sanders rape fantasy essay. Simply stupid. Sanders backed off while his surrogates carried it for him. He had no other options.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
7. CAPITALIZE on it????
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:57 PM
Nov 2016

I'm not the biggest Bernie fan in the world, but it was greatly to his credit that he ignored this, as well he should have.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
4. The media did the same thing to her that they did to Gore in 2000 and we got the same result
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:53 PM
Nov 2016

a popular vote win and an electoral vote loss.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
5. and the same thing they did to Kerry as well
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:55 PM
Nov 2016

although Kerry didn't win the popular vote. But still, the media is very much complicit in this mess. So are all the "I told you so" jerks.

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
11. What I can't wrap my head around is 53% of white women voted for trump
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:05 PM
Nov 2016

In what world does that make any God damned sense!!

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
12. They are the same women who voted for Bush and McCain and Romney
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:07 PM
Nov 2016

The number just didn't budge. It's the stay-at-home vote that was the problem.

You'd think the number would shift, but it just didn't. Because sexism really is that ingrained.

 

lake loon

(99 posts)
15. If that's true, it's only, only, only ...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:30 PM
Nov 2016

because of abortion. The fundie wackos would vote for bucket of opossum tails if it was against abortion.

Hekate

(90,656 posts)
10. Since she WON by a million votes and still counting, the biggest thing was the Electoral College
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:01 PM
Nov 2016

If Bernie still wants to lead a revolution, he can start with that, and lead his loyal followers in getting the necessary Constitutional amendment passed.

 

lake loon

(99 posts)
16. So true.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:32 PM
Nov 2016

Heard it every day on supposed MSM. Every newscast began with the word "Trump." Every newscast connected the words "Hillary" and "scandal." There was hardly ever a mention of any issues or policy.

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