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Hillary now leads whatshisname by 1.7 million votes. Obviously, at least to me, there has been (Original Post) monmouth4 Nov 2016 OP
I agree...can't be that hight without rigging. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #1
Couldn't Obama order an investigation and/or recount by Executive Order? ... and why hasn't he done so already?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #11
Election are mostly left to states. I really don't know. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #14
But Thein Furher's non-election was national w/ fraud committed across state lines... so where the fuck is DOJ?! AG Lynch should order the FBI to move on this... pronto!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2016 #16
I agree. what have we got to lose? I have called and asked for an investigation. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #19
Perhaps a lot of stuff is going on behind the scenes... that is my fondest wish.. and what a secondwind Nov 2016 #2
Oh, how I hope you are right and your wish is mine. I realize Hill is in a funk and rightfully so, monmouth4 Nov 2016 #5
Democrats tend to be wimps on this sort of thing...sadly. But Trump is no ordinary Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #6
I agree , but what to do apcalc Nov 2016 #3
massive civil disobedience may bdamomma Nov 2016 #18
I'm hoping things are going on cilla4progress Nov 2016 #4
yeah, the McRory situation is sickening-- sad how little attention it's gotten Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #7
The vote count and her lead is sickening but that isnt the problem libtodeath Nov 2016 #8
Well the Dems are lame cilla4progress Nov 2016 #9
since when have democrats fought election fraud? Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #10
I can't even find this story in the news services cilla4progress Nov 2016 #12
Exactly.The ones who remain in government immediately start with the singing of kumbaya. Vinca Nov 2016 #13
Hillary conceded. Imagine how the media would handle it if she were the one to ask now. DFW Nov 2016 #15
Consessions are not legally binding Freddie Nov 2016 #20
Of course not. But I wasn't talking about legalities DFW Nov 2016 #24
it was rigged alright. bdamomma Nov 2016 #17
Once again, projecting onto others... 3catwoman3 Nov 2016 #28
Fight for all of us Secretary Clinton!!!! Equinox Moon Nov 2016 #21
Recount! FailureToCommunicate Nov 2016 #22
it's the electoral college, which favors rural, sparsely populated states. geek tragedy Nov 2016 #23
Exactly. LisaL Nov 2016 #33
Folks it is an uphill battle titaniumsalute Nov 2016 #25
And the vast majority of that growing vote count SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #26
He's the Racist-in-Chief, not whatshisname. LonePirate Nov 2016 #27
I am referring to him... 3catwoman3 Nov 2016 #29
He who must not be named. MFM008 Nov 2016 #30
7 million more uncounted votes to go. Sunlei Nov 2016 #31
Projecting California 2.5 million Clinton lead. Coyotl Nov 2016 #32
Yeah but most of her lead is due to running up the score in heavily blue states davidn3600 Nov 2016 #34

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
11. Couldn't Obama order an investigation and/or recount by Executive Order? ... and why hasn't he done so already?!?!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:42 AM
Nov 2016

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,121 posts)
16. But Thein Furher's non-election was national w/ fraud committed across state lines... so where the fuck is DOJ?! AG Lynch should order the FBI to move on this... pronto!!!
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:01 AM
Nov 2016

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. Perhaps a lot of stuff is going on behind the scenes... that is my fondest wish.. and what a
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:10 AM
Nov 2016

Christmas it would be for America!

monmouth4

(9,686 posts)
5. Oh, how I hope you are right and your wish is mine. I realize Hill is in a funk and rightfully so,
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:14 AM
Nov 2016

but it is definitely time for her to get back in this game with fight and fury and demand a recount and/or audit. Enough already!

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
6. Democrats tend to be wimps on this sort of thing...sadly. But Trump is no ordinary
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:23 AM
Nov 2016

elected president, and extraordinary measures should be taken.

Obama should speak out, Senate Dems should speak out, we ALL should speak out!!!!

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
4. I'm hoping things are going on
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:14 AM
Nov 2016

Behind the scenes too. What would the republicans do if the situation were reversed? Look at McCrory in NC.

Sometimes the high road isn't all it's cracked up to be.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
8. The vote count and her lead is sickening but that isnt the problem
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:25 AM
Nov 2016

Michigan,Wisconsin,Pennsylvania and Florida are where the theft happened.

cilla4progress

(24,717 posts)
12. I can't even find this story in the news services
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:47 AM
Nov 2016

it should be screamed from the rooftops.

I think america has a death wish. Evangelicals certainly do.

Too bad. My family and I were having a good time. Oh well. They can't take our memories away from us.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
13. Exactly.The ones who remain in government immediately start with the singing of kumbaya.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:51 AM
Nov 2016

They foolishly think being agreeable is going to get us somewhere. It should be clear from the abuse Obama has taken from the GOP during his tenure that the only place it gets us is stalled. The irony is that now they'll be dragging out Obama's infrastructure legislation and other items and passing them with great gusto, all the while branding them with big, gold letters: TRUMP. It makes me want to puke.

DFW

(54,293 posts)
15. Hillary conceded. Imagine how the media would handle it if she were the one to ask now.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 08:57 AM
Nov 2016

I am all for SOMEONE shouting it from the highest rooftops, but considering the media landscape in the USA, she can't be the one to do it.

However, any and all contenders for the DNC chair should have open season, as should any media commentator whose job would not be in immediate peril if they opened their mouth.

Keith Olbermann springs to mind. His audience might not be immense now, but if he were to run with this, I think he could start a movement.

We had better be prepared for that movement to get nowhere, though. If there's one thing you can count on, it's that all hard drives on the voting machines have long since been wiped clean. That's not exactly the kind of evidence you want to leave around.

DFW

(54,293 posts)
24. Of course not. But I wasn't talking about legalities
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Nov 2016

I was talking about PR and media reaction, which carries so much weight these days.

bdamomma

(63,799 posts)
17. it was rigged alright.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 09:24 AM
Nov 2016

whatshisname keep on saying it, it was rigged for him!!!

of course the white supremacists party stole the election, they did 16 years ago too.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
23. it's the electoral college, which favors rural, sparsely populated states.
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Nov 2016

not really that much mystery to it.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
25. Folks it is an uphill battle
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 11:38 AM
Nov 2016

The problem is that some of the most blue states, like California, is where so many of these votes are coming from. In addition, states like Georgia and Texas she performed better than Obama so the total vote counts were better for Dems but not enough to win the EVs. She barely lost PA, Mi, and WI.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
26. And the vast majority of that growing vote count
Mon Nov 21, 2016, 12:11 PM
Nov 2016

is coming from California.

How people can see a stolen election based on the popular vote total rising due to a reliably, heavily blue state is beyond me.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
32. Projecting California 2.5 million Clinton lead.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 11:39 PM
Nov 2016

At this point the question is "How far over 2 million will the margin reach?"

"How many states worth of Trump votes?" is another metric, one that put's Hillary's huge lead in perspective.



 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
34. Yeah but most of her lead is due to running up the score in heavily blue states
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:35 AM
Nov 2016

There is a very big divide in this country between New York, California, Massachusetts....versus everywhere else.

Look at the South. Look at the midwest. Look at the plains. It's all red.

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