2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumElectoral College: Make Hillary Clinton President on 12/19 Petition 4.5 million signatures
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PETITION HERE
https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19
Excellent background on Electoral College here:
https://medium.com/@dbrezenoff/3-1-2-californians-some-are-more-equal-than-others-5b5cfef6b2a3#.a3y54zmx7
snip: The American people have never not once elected our own president. Instead, a small group of party loyalists elect the President. This is the Electoral College, a system largely designed to protect the institution of slavery from Northern voters.
This year, the Electors vote on December 19. Tradition and some state laws dictate that the Electors vote for the candidate who won the most votes in their state, However, the U.S. Constitution allows the Electors to cast their vote for anyone who meets the legal qualifications, and there are 21 states with no laws against it more than enough electors to keep Trump out of the White House.
If just 38 Republican Electors vote for Secretary Hillary Clinton, she wins. snip
It takes 3 1/2 Californians to equal 1 voter in Wyoming in a presidential election. It takes 3 1/2 Texans to equal 1 voter in Vermont.
Louisiana voters count more than Florida voters. Idaho voters count more than Washington voters. Rhode Island voters count more than New York voters.
That kind of inequality has no place in our modern democracy.
Even if we believe small state voters should carry more weight than voters in large states, does anyone actually think the ratio should be 3 1/2 to 1?
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Nope.
Those 38 votes will be rejected by Congress, the electoral count will stand at 268-232, the Presidential election will go to House, and Trump will win.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)it's not a matter of giving up or not giving up. Given the make up of Congress, there is no path to the Presidency for Hillary Clinton.
If it makes people feel better to sign petitions, more power to them. But my view is that both candidates (and all of us voters) knew going in how the election works, i.e., the Electoral College, not the popular vote, chooses the President.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)and the purpose of the electors.
Just sayin.....if that is the argument you want to go with...
It's not just a matter of the popular vote and everyone knows it. But the fact that she won the popular vote is compelling.
femmocrat
(28,394 posts)But I think we need to make our opposition too big to ignore. Even LBJ eventually heard the protests.
Of course we knew how the election worked, in normal times. "We" were swept up in the euphoria of what looked like a sure thing and missed the sh*tstorm on the horizon.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Think about it. A month ago, Comey had not even made his pronouncement about re-opening the email investigation.
Who knows what's next?
still_one
(92,110 posts)and if it was a certain percentage he could theoretically be considered among the possible candid
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)will allow an electoral vote for Gary Johnson to stand? I don't see either party allowing that to happen.
still_one
(92,110 posts)candidates who were on the ballot, that's all
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and yet, we are still hanging onto it.
livetohike
(22,133 posts)Amaril
(1,267 posts).....but I signed it.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)and then share it around
Amaril
(1,267 posts).....that I also shared it.