Clinton will back Stein's recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania: campaign attorney

[UCmeNdc]

In a statement posted to Medium on Saturday morning, the general counsel for Hillary for America announced the campaign would get behind recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan should Green Party candidate Jill Stein make good on her promise to look into voting totals in those states

According to attorney Marc Erik Elias, the campaign has been reviewing their options since the loss to GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, including allegations of tampering.

“It should go without saying that we take these concerns extremely seriously. We certainly understand the heartbreak felt by so many who worked so hard to elect Hillary Clinton, and it is a fundamental principle of our democracy to ensure that every vote is properly counted,” he wrote. “Since the day after the election we have had lawyers and data scientists and analysts combing over the results to spot anomalies that would suggest a hacked result. These have included analysts both from within the campaign and outside, with backgrounds in politics, technology and academia.”


“Now that a recount has been initiated in Wisconsin, we intend to participate in order to ensure the process proceeds in a manner that is fair to all sides. If Jill Stein follows through as she has promised and pursues recounts in Pennsylvania and Michigan, we will take the same approach in those states as well,” Elias wrote.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/clinton-to-follow-steins-lead-and-back-recounts-in-michigan-and-pennsylvania-campaign-attorney/

[vi5]

1. I thought Stein was delusional and destructive?

I thought she wanted to insure a Trump win?

I guess certain folks will take her money and her time and her effort when it suits them so they don't have to do the work themselves, huh?

[UCmeNdc]

2. Deep down you support a president Trump

At least you must like Trump over the Democratic candidate.

[grossproffit]

3. That one's a pinebagger.

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/new-members-check-in-thread-2/#post-316291

[SaschaHM]

5. Ugh, they're all coming back in droves with their bullshit.

I saw one screaming that Hillary personally suppressed votes during the primary.

[vi5]

9. Wow, my 3 whole posts while DU was down....

...and I needed someplace to vent. After which I quickly got annoyed at the pro-Trump posts and left. You really got me.

How'd that dismissing and scoffing at everyone that disagrees with you work out, huh?

[vi5]

7. No, I support the recount just fine.....

...I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of many on here including Ms. Clinton herself. How much effort is she putting into raising money for it or resources?

It's the big part of our problem. The party establishment wants "the left" to do their dirty work and all the heavy lifting, but wants to dismiss and insult them when they ask for anything in return.

[Hortensis]

14. I don't appreciate your characterization of me as a hypocrite.

Did you pick that up on that extremist anti-Democrat forum, or is contempt for mainstream liberal progressive Democrats a major reason you went there in the first place?

As a mainstream liberal, progressive Democrat, I only care that we start auditing all elections, beginning with this one. And the $11 I donated to Stein's claim that she would call for audits in no way contradicts my extremely poor opinion of her. That stands. I did and do not trust her not to misuse the monies raised but donated anyway in hopes that she would come through on that to gain some passing national attention.

Btw, these audits would be on top of what the Clinton campaign has been doing quietly and very competently behind the scenes. I appreciate and respect their investigations, and their conclusions, but I believe we need people to come to expect public audits of every election.

[vi5]

15. So you were o.k. with Stein running?

Never said a bad word about her? Complained about her running? If that's the case then by all means my full apologies for the horrible mischaracterization on my part.

That's the hypocrisy that I speak of.

And I am a mainstream liberal progressive. But I don't have contempt for those to the left of me, and realize that they are the foundation on which our party and liberalism in general are built.

And as for "the other forum", no the reason I went there even for the two days and 3 posts I made there was because much like the Democratic party establishment that it so desperately seemed to want to emulate, DU was down and failed when we all needed it most.

[Hortensis]

16. Yes, close enough. It was her right. I take my vote

very seriously and would no more vote for her than I'd nominate my cat, less in fact, and I have a very poor opinion of those who voted for her, but she had a right to run.

I also needed somewhere else to go when DU was down and, happily, had a group to shelter with. So I can understand that, but one minute of JPR's intense hostility toward people like me would have been more than enough. I've only dropped in to shake my head in amazement at what immersion in extremist communities can do remold a psyche. (After reading about the phenomenon identified and studied by experts on extremism). Speaking of, congrats on not falling farther down that rabbit hole.

[Madam45for2923]

4. Listening and Responding To Calls for an Audit and Recount by Marc Erik Elias

Over the last few days, officials in the Clinton campaign have received hundreds of messages, emails, and calls urging us to do something, anything, to investigate claims that the election results were hacked and altered in a way to disadvantage Secretary Clinton. The concerns have arisen, in particular, with respect to Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania — three states that together proved decisive in this presidential election and where the combined margin of victory for Donald Trump was merely 107,000 votes.

It should go without saying that we take these concerns extremely seriously. We certainly understand the heartbreak felt by so many who worked so hard to elect Hillary Clinton, and it is a fundamental principle of our democracy to ensure that every vote is properly counted.

Moreover, this election cycle was unique in the degree of foreign interference witnessed throughout the campaign: the U.S. government concluded that Russian state actors were behind the hacks of the Democratic National Committee and the personal email accounts of Hillary for America campaign officials, and just yesterday, the Washington Post reported that the Russian government was behind much of the “fake news” propaganda that circulated online in the closing weeks of the election.

For all these reasons, we have quietly taken a number of steps in the last two weeks to rule in or out any possibility of outside interference in the vote tally in these critical battleground states.

First, since the day after the election we have had lawyers and data scientists and analysts combing over the results to spot anomalies that would suggest a hacked result. These have included analysts both from within the campaign and outside, with backgrounds in politics, technology and academia.

Second, we have had numerous meetings and calls with...https://medium.com/marceelias/listening-and-responding-to-calls-for-an-audit-and-recount-2a904717ea39#.qlwyl0vzg

[lostnfound]

8. This last paragraph made me cry.

"The campaign is grateful to all those who have expended time and effort to investigate various claims of abnormalities and irregularities. While that effort has not, in our view, resulted in evidence of manipulation of results, now that a recount is underway, we believe we have an obligation to the more than 64 million Americans who cast ballots for Hillary Clinton to participate in ongoing proceedings to ensure that an accurate vote count will be reported."

That's all I want. I want to know that the votes are still being properly counted.

[MichMan]

11. What about the other 47 states?

If the goal is to ensure that the vote counts across the country were accurate, why only contest three states?

[mopinko]

12. because they had the tightest margins.

close enough to be overturned.

[Omaha Steve]

19. FL should be done too

Hillary should push that based on the math post from Monday. I can't seem to find it. .

[mopinko]

20. one would hope that if any of those states flip,

especially if there are stunning reversals, they better recount more states.
one would likely only progress to hopelessness, but one must try.

[LisaL]

13. Hillary's campaign isn't contesting any states.

But usually contested states are the one where votes are close.

[Grown2Hate]

17. It's also a matter of money. Without RAZOR thin margins, an automatic recount is NOT

triggered, so the candidate must raise the money for the recount themselves. IF anomalies are uncovered during the audit of these three, then you can extrapolate that there was something more widespread going on. If NOT, at least we'll know what we're up against politically.

[MichMan]

23. What automatic recounts are you referring to?

What automatic recounts? None of the states were close enough for automatic recounts which is why Stein had to raise the money to pay for them

[Grown2Hate]

27. Right. That's what I said. There are no automatic

recounts since none were close enough, so she has to pay for them all. I was responding to the, "Why don't we just recount all of the close states?" question. It's a matter of money.

[EL34x4]

6. He basically said that if an official recount is initiated...

...The Clinton campaign will have legal representation present.

I'm sure the Trump's people will be there as well.

They weren't supporting a recount but if one takes place, they'll be there to ensure it's done correctly.

[Arazi]

10. Obviously the Clinton camp doesn't know Jill Stein is running a scam

A bait and switch!!1!

Oh and yeah fuck Jill Stein!!11! We "real" Dems hate her

[oberliner]

18. They know she is running a scam

And I am confident that they dislike Jill as much as she dislikes them.

They will still want to have representation present for whatever recounts occur - as will Trump's people.

[womanofthehills]

24. When has counting votes become a scam?

[Bobbie Jo]

21. I don't care who does it.

Let's just get it done.

I don't know what your nanny-nanny boo boo is all about, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt at this point. Maybe she had a moment of conscience.

Whatever, just get it done.

[flamingdem]

22. Thank you Bobbie

Note the negativity in this group, even after Hillary jumped on board.

We need it done to learn as much as we can and the clock is ticking.

[womanofthehills]

25. People in this group are posting the Republican talking points

Makes me wonder why they do not want a recount.

[Gothmog]

26. Marc Elias is a great election law attorney