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Chasing Dreams

(415 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:43 PM Nov 2016

Lawyers: If WI Recount Reveals Count Fraud and Hillary Won, Can the Supreme Court be Petitioned

to Order a Halt to the Electoral College Vote pending recounts in other close states?

I know it is doubtful that the WI count will change, but if the "impossible" happens and there is overwhelming evidence of error, fraud, or misconduct that is likely in other states, could an argument be made that the safe harbor date be extended and EC vote be delayed a couple of weeks to allow for proper counts? I know Justice Breyer proposed a one week extension in Florida that was not agreed to in 2000, but suppose he got five votes? Can the Supremes effectively order such a recount?

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Lawyers: If WI Recount Reveals Count Fraud and Hillary Won, Can the Supreme Court be Petitioned (Original Post) Chasing Dreams Nov 2016 OP
Regardless of what the SCOTUS would do, we need hand-counted paper-ballots in EVERY STATE nikto Nov 2016 #1
word. nt TheFrenchRazor Nov 2016 #5
You would need a favorable lower court decision and 4, not 5 votes in SCOTUS Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #2
That's the right strategy, but there may not be enough time to go to a lower court first. Chasing Dreams Nov 2016 #4
We can only know the answer to that marybourg Nov 2016 #3
 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
1. Regardless of what the SCOTUS would do, we need hand-counted paper-ballots in EVERY STATE
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:50 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 2, 2016, 04:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Even more than overturning the election, it is
OUR VOTING SYSTEMS that must be reformed.

The elites of both sides will resist this, relentlessly.
Just watch.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
2. You would need a favorable lower court decision and 4, not 5 votes in SCOTUS
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:56 PM
Nov 2016

A 4-4 tie in SCOTUS would affirm the lower court (Court of Appeals) decision.

Sure, anything is possible. Who would have thought the court would stop a state from counting votes in 2000? If that is possible, why not ordering other recounts?

Chasing Dreams

(415 posts)
4. That's the right strategy, but there may not be enough time to go to a lower court first.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:15 AM
Nov 2016

I just checked out the composition of the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, which includes PA. That court has 12 judges, 2 vacancies. Seven judges appointed by Democrats.

So my Democratic attorney friends, I sure hope you are not waiting for the WI recount to be completed before crafting the paperwork, rational, etc. necessary to file in Federal Court in Philadelphia. Or perhaps a direct request to the 3rd circuit appellate court!

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
3. We can only know the answer to that
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:57 PM
Nov 2016

if someone makes a decision to bring an action in a court they believe appropriate.

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