Is there an attempted right wing take over going on here?

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I keep seeing ads for Michelle Malkin, the extreme right wing columnist popping up, and there are threads ON
DU defending Trump voters.

Also there are calls to woo white working class voters who voted for Trump and his blatantly racist campaign, who apparently heard his racist dog whistles loud and clear and responded with their votes.

We also just got shut down by hackers, a shot across the bow if there ever was one.

What's going on? Is there an attempt to normalize Trumps anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim, misogynistic, racist message and move DU to the right?

[triron]

1. There seems to be a lot of finger poining going on.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. If you buy a donor star (any amount), the ads vanish.

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3. That's not the point. Why are ads for right wingers appearing here, along with the other . . .

things mentioned.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. Skinner has talked about this, and I don't exactly remember what he said.

I think the ads are bundled in a group.

Every time someone clicks on an ad, money flows to DU. So it costs the right wingers money to advertise here.

You could talk to Skinner in Ask The Administrators Group about this. He'll tell you what's going on.

On edit: Here's the link to that group: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1259

[CentralMass]

7. I find the the ads tend to be related to what I am surfing.

I might be wrong but try clearing your browser history and cookies and then log back in. You will probably see different ad's.

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9. Thanks. I'll try that, but I certainly don't visit right wing sites so Malkin ads are not welcome.

[marybourg]

10. But the name "Trump" is used here and that

triggers "Trump"-type ads. From whichever side is using the name "Trump" in an ad. That's just how ads work on the internet now. They're trying to give you "what you're interested in", but it's selected by a computer, not a person.

As has been suggested, buying a star for as little as a coupla bucks will stop the ads, as will downloading Adblocker.

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11. Maybe, but Trump's name was mentioned thousands of times before the campaign . . .

and these ads were not showing up.

I'm just wondering if there is a subtle infiltration of right wing ads and OPs excusing Trump's racist voters going on here?

We've learned since the election that the Russians paid an army of trolls to post Trump-favoring OPs on sites during the campaign, including liberal ones.

It's not farfetched to think that could be continuing.

[bravenak]

4. I think so

[Travis_0004]

6. The ads are from google

Google thinks that you should see Michelle Malkin ads, not DU.

The ads you see are based on cookies you have and the types of websites you visit.

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8. Not buying that. I don't visit right wing sites.

And these ads were not on here before the election and the hacking shutdown.

[CentralMass]

14. I'm not seeing them. This is the ad I see :

https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=CFrLAQMM_WOX1CMzFBfmGpKAP_4Xkv0e-8tDOnwS74Pq1jgYQASDhs_QBYMmGgIDMpNQZoAH3j5akA8gBAuACAKgDAcgDmQSqBPEBT9DckVQCSMk1rbN2XPbyBkLszYdpYi9SLmS5ALD6A617rCGPk277huCLziiDBrcIh07PlZSr2Gx8wFUHaNJvBRVgHpSw5YkK6tIN_jg2Qmb2k6e9h4r0mIEHujl5LpEZ2QL2WboiKMku-hQ8gRMlPrIVyUnTyxXL6EOD1RBAh_WRtNbnP0FCZQwDraCOc4G95Jct7rZr8OwBRVlB54o08nJFdVTTcdgj4GOyttob0UYLgLubsr6b_IZdMg-Ij9_yzV2h3N8JXg3BhTHfZi7er2njJ1RMNroYOLhdHlwO0wN8vzSy9pZxzlqvoyTgyWwC9OAEAYgGAaAGAtgGAoAH8e_pW6gHpr4b2AcB0ggFCIBhEAE&num=1&cid=CAASEuRoUlqTReEDGxu4Km5MbAgDHg&sig=AOD64_1fbxgc3CjKeOzHUh19oVU6HXBzUg&client=ca-pub-7805397860504090&nm=1&nx=236&ny=74&mb=2&adurl=http://www.thync.com/try%3Futm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dpaid%26utm_campaign%3D613136796%26utm_term%3D158767003630

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15. There are other ads, it's just that Malkin ads are suddenly showing up, and didn't in the campaign

[PatsFan87]

12. I don't see it as defending as much as seeing the bigger picture.

Will it help us long-term if we write off Trump voters who voted for Obama once and at times, twice? Clearly some Democrats and independents who voted for Trump will support our party if we have the right candidate at the right time, the right message, the right outreach, the right optics. I am as disappointed in this outcome but we have two choices. A) Throw a temper tantrum and permanently push away these voters by calling them every name in the book or B) Play it smart and learn, organize, and act. If you're disappointed in them for hurting the Democratic party, should you not look in the mirror and see that further pushing people away is hurting the Democratic party as well?

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13. Does the party benefit from wooing voters so stupid they think Trump is bringing back their job, . .

or voters who love Trump's dog whistle racism?

Let me think about that.

OK, I did. Nope, don't want them.

Gotta live with myself, and other Dems, hopefully ON THE SAME PAGE as far as being intolerant of racists.

[PatsFan87]

16. The party benefits from winning elections. Period.

Quite frankly, I do not care if Satan himself voted for the Democrats. All I give a hoot about is that a Democrat won their race so the issues that I care about are taking center stage. As an LGBT citizen, I do not have the luxury to push people away so that my party continues to stay in the minority while Republicans strip me of my basic dignity. We can win voters back, not the horrible racist, homophobic ones, but the ones legitimately struggling to put food on the table, the ones who have to set up a GoFundMe page so they don't die.

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20. So you think having racists in the party is not going to influence our platform and stances on . .

LGBTQ issues? Those issues would be push aside quickly if we try to appease people unfavorable to diversity and inclusiveness.

Come on now. We can not compromise on that. Racist are not just anti-POC, they are anti-gay as well. Here's a link of Trump's appointments who will deal with LGBTQ issues. I don't want these people anywhere near the Dem party: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028317546

And we are not in the minority in the country. Don't think that for a minute.

Hillary won millions more votes in what I suspect is a tampered-with vote count favoring an out-and-out racist, aided unprecedentedly by a foreign power, a rogue FBI chief and a fugitive leaker all working to deny the actual vote leader the victory.

Many seem to have accepted and not care that a foreign dictator meddled in our election and affected the outcome, and are now backbiting our party when what happened right before out eyes is a coup by the Russians who got in their preferred candidate, by hook and crook.

[PatsFan87]

23. I think you're painting all of his supporters with a broad brush.

A lot of them are the racist, homophobic, sexist, violent people that you are describing. But how can you group people who voted for Obama twice in with them? They voted for a black man twice, once AFTER he announced he supported same-sex marriage. We're to believe they're racist and homophobic? Independents outnumber registered Democrats and Republicans. These are people we can get if we address their economic concerns, their fears, their hopes, how we have failed them. We stand strong against racism, homophobia, sexism, horrible economic policies from Republicans while at the same time reflecting and admitting that in some areas, we can do better as well. People within our party aren't criticizing it because we hate it. We're doing it because we love it enough to want it to succeed and work for the greatest number of people.

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24. Sorry, can't excuse anyone stupid enough to think Trump is bringing their job back . . .

or anyone who voted for him because of his racist dog whistles.

He campaigned on hate and they still voted for him.

If they come to the Dem party they will pull it to the right and LGBTQ issues will be shoved aside.

[SpareribSP]

21. Do you hate racists?

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18. Not sure about that. I don't go to or research right wing sites so Malkin ads should not be showing

[MFM008]

19. not for me

I hate right wing
alt-right
maggot
maggot supporters
maggot voters
maggots family
republicans
democrat sell outs
neo-Nazis
actual Nazis.
can all drop deceased.

[LenaBaby61]

25. THIS

TY MFM008 ....

[MFM008]

26. Yup

[still_one]

27. If you are a star member you shouldn't be seeing any ads

[Crunchy Frog]

28. When you're running for national political office, you woo all the voters that you can.

Even if they voted despicably in the past election. Writing off huge swaths of the electorate is a recipe for guaranteed, continual defeat. I don't consider that a RW position. I consider it a "living in the real world" position.

I haven't seen anyone defending the act of voting for Trump, and if they did, the post would get hidden, and they'd likely be banned. Some people have advocated the notion that not all Trump voters are irretrievably evil, and think that it may be worthwhile to try to understand why some blocs of traditionally Democratic voters went for a racist, orange troglodyte this cycle. I personally think that is a worthwhile question to examine. If you want to believe that makes me part of a RW conspiracy here, you are certainly entitled to that opinion.

Some posters are taking other posters words and twisting them into a different meaning, and then crying "RW" and "racism". At least that's what it looks like to me.

If you don't want to see the ads, buying a star will get rid of them.

My answer to your question is, IMO, no. But then, I might be one of "them".

[2naSalit]

29. My computer froze up twice this past week

while I was reading posts on DU. I do a lot of clean up when I log off. Someone is messing with us.

[Travis_0004]

30. Or you need a new computer

[RandiFan1290]

31. Same trolls that were defending Bush

I started reading DU in 2002 and the same trolls were here defending Bush. Helps keep the clicks coming in.

Get adblock & NoScrpit

[LexVegas]

32. There are threads on DU attacking Hillary Clinton by unreformed Berniebros...

they see it as a safe time to stick their heads back out of the weeds or remove the mask they've had on since the primary ended.

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33. I think you're right