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[DemocraticWing]

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[NoGoodNamesLeft]

1. Guess they got bored with blaming white people

Gotta love the bigotry towards groups and lumping people all together...and by the party that SUPPOSEDLY opposes that kind of thing.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

2. it's not bigoted to say a majority of whites voted for trump, when they did. nt

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

4. It is bigoted to call them all racists, though, which is exactly what's been going on

And now it looks like young people are going to be attacked next.

It's ignorant.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

5. those who voted for Trump either are racists themselves, or are tolerant of racism.

that is also not a bigoted comment.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

14. So you know all of those voters personally to lump them all together then?

Since when has stereotyping an entire group in a negative light without even knowing them become acceptable and OK in the Democratic Party?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. No but i know they voted for someone who explicitly said racist things

And they either ignored that or approved of it

[bettyellen]

11. Only the white people who voted to elect and openly racist candidate are accused of supporting

Bigotry. His two most well known campaign promises were to keep brown people out of the country.


How did these voters not know they were suppprting bigotry?

[frazzled]

3. But that's down 11% from the mostly GenX voters who

gave Obama 66% of the vote in 2008 (and 60% in 2012--influence of millennial generation?). Note that the Republican vote among young voters stayed approximately the same from 2008, 2010, and 2012. That means that Democratic-leaning millennials were just not voting that much.

Just saying. It DID play a factor.

[still_one]

6. that was 5% than those that voted for President Obama. I am not one to make blanket

generalizations, because there were a lot of factors, the misreporting by the media that "Comey has reopened the email investigation", the double standard in coverage, where Hillary was held to a much higher standard, 47% of the eligible voters who refused to vote, the 2013 Supreme Court decision which allowed a key section of the voting rights act to be overturned, and opened the flood gates for 14 states to setup more restrictive voter requirements, long lines, voter IDs, and removing names from voter lists.

However, I believe, what did make a difference was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for Hillary, and either voted third party or didn't vote.

For those that were in that mind set, I can understand their rationalization, even though I don't agree with it, but what I cannot understand is why every Democrat running for Senate in the swing states against the establishment republican incumbent lost?

[David__77]

7. I think it's candidates job to win votes.

What's the point in blaming anyone? Formulate a platform and run a campaign. Win votes or lose them. One thing I know is Clinton failed to win. That's not blame - that's a fact.

[JudyM]

9. Yes. Her campaign needed to pay more attention to economic inequality, as per this article.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/why-hillary-clinton-lost-podcast_us_58420694e4b017f37fe4c532

[Chitown Kev]

8. White millennial voters

actually supported Trump according to exit polls 48-43, I believe.

There are latino, API, and black millennials, you know. They were the ones more likely to support Clinton.

[red dog 1]

10. If Hillary had chosen Sanders or Warren as her running mate,

we would likely be talking about President-elect Clinton right now.

She received more than 9 million votes in the primaries.

Bernie Sanders received more than 6 million votes.

She won 28 states.

Sanders won 22 states.

She could have united the Democratic Party by choosing either Sanders or Sen. Warren as her running mate.

Instead, she "gave the finger" to the 6 million + Democrats who voted for Bernie Sanders by picking a ConservaDem from VA.

It's not the millennials fault she lost..it's her own fault!

K&R

[BlueStater]

16. Yawn. n/t

[Autumn]

12. In the end, Hillary's loss is on her, as every candidate who has run for president

and lost is on them.

[True_Blue]

13. K&R

[treestar]

17. I blame the voters of the three states

that put Donnie over the top. It's a coincidence that his voters lived in the right states.

They are probably white and yes, mostly not young people. They are more likely to be rural than not. They happened to live in the right states and get their way over that of the majority because of that. The EC allows this to happen.