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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:34 PM Dec 2016

Yes, you can blame millennials for Hillary Clintons loss

This article ought to stir up some discussion. Don't know whether I agree or not. I have a nephew who voted for Jill Stein but that's in a state Hillary overwhelmingly carried.

Hillary Clinton's campaign has lots of excuses for losing. There's the electoral college, James Comey, the media's alleged over-exuberance in digging into Clinton's email server, etc. But Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said Thursday that one particular group is especially to blame: millennials.

As Karen Tumulty and Philip Rucker reported from the big election postmortem at Harvard on Thursday night:

Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook also acknowledged that her operation had made a number of mistakes and miscalculations, while being buffeted by what he repeatedly described as a “headwind” of being an establishment candidate in a season where voters were anxious for change.

He noted, for example, that younger voters, perhaps assuming that Clinton was going to win, migrated to third-party candidates in the final days of the race.

Where the campaign needed to win upward of 60 percent of young voters, it was able to garner something “in the high 50s at the end of the day,” Mook said. “That’s why we lost.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/02/yes-you-can-blame-millennials-for-hillary-clintons-loss/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_3_na&utm_term=.6e1f02064f8d

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bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
2. With a loss by such a small margin you can blame anybody
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:41 PM
Dec 2016

There are no demographic groups small enough that a bit more of a swing toward Hillary or a swing away from trump wouldn't have changed the outcome. At which point throwing blame around isn't much use.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
3. Blaming only 1 thing or group is ridiculous and wrong. There are many factors that went into
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
Dec 2016

the loss. The campaign, the candidate, the damn media has a huge part, the potential voters, etc

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
4. Good data in there, but they didn't care enough about an HRC presidency to vote for her
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:43 PM
Dec 2016

in big enough numbers. Still, I bet many will never throw their vote away on a 3rd party again.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
5. "Hillary Clinton's campaign has lots of excuses for losing."
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

The Fix should fix it's copy. Those are reasons, not excuses.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
8. Podesta/Mook should've ran a tougher/smarter campaign,
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

and have fought back against Comey/GOP witchhunts harder, especially in July when he gave his smug, moralizing speech. If they could've successfully neutured Comey earlier he would not have posed the threat he did, ultimately throwing the election to Trump.

Without Comey's stunt she wins easily.

Her turnout of young voters was still pretty good, enough to win.

I wish younger voters would've cared enough, and been inspired by H's story as a pioneer and an icon for civil rights and women's rights, who would've been the first woman president, in a country that is 240years old and has never had one.

I wish they would've seen the fascist threat posed by Trump/Pence to their own futures.

I wish they would've not bought into the false equivalence that "both candidates were the same", as Bill Maher stated a week before the election, "that getting voters to buy into this idea was the Repubs only path to victory".

But ultimately we can't expect young voters to be hyper excited in every election, like they were for Obama, as depending on that type of formula (personality politics) is not repeatable.

What Dems need to do is sit down and formulate a set of policies that young voters want, such as drug law reforms, criminal justice reform, college tuition/loan reform (which H did propose) and other policies that get them to the polls, even in midterms, local races, etc.

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