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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:40 AM Dec 2016

I have to pay for my TRUMP voting cousin's groceries this month

See? Now go ahead and ask me why he voted for Trump.

Why?


Because he wants Trump to build the wall to keep Mexicans from getting food stamps. He cannot get food stamps because he already gets too much support through SSI, section 8, Adult Public Assistance, medicaid and medicare, the heating program, and vouchers from a few other organizations.

But he hates the idea of them damn MEXICANS getting a few hundred bucks in food stamps.
He gets about 2500 in help through his various programs he spends his days googling. He works about 20 hours a week besides.

Could he afford his lifestyle and to eat? Sure. But he'd have to give up his brand new SUV with dark tint and new rims with five screens and all that bumping bass to do so. And stop flying to Cali 4 times a year.

Easier to blame mexicans and find a DUMB ASS DEMOCRAT to fix shit while he fucks it up.

So I will buy food out of my little bit of personal cash to feed his skinny ass while he dreams of snatching EBT cards from Mexicans.

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I have to pay for my TRUMP voting cousin's groceries this month (Original Post) bravenak Dec 2016 OP
Lots in my family are broke metroins Dec 2016 #1
My cousin is stupid too bravenak Dec 2016 #3
My neighbor is a Black Trump supporter sfwriter Dec 2016 #15
Trump was more openly hostile to mexicans than blacks so he might be able to rationalize it bravenak Dec 2016 #16
They really believe this. ananda Dec 2016 #21
anything enid602 Dec 2016 #66
Next month..let him budget better Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #2
He'd better... bravenak Dec 2016 #4
Your cousin has zero self awareness. madaboutharry Dec 2016 #5
He is a nasty person bravenak Dec 2016 #7
You are awesome yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #17
Wow, Brave NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #75
And what makes him think all Mexicans are getting food stamps? OK then he at least will be doing lunasun Dec 2016 #6
He can't get them. So it must be because the mexicans are getting them all. bravenak Dec 2016 #10
Dude needs to pull himself up by his own freaking hobnail boots Achilleaze Dec 2016 #8
His repub friend tell him how special he is for being republican bravenak Dec 2016 #11
So, why are you paying for this freeloader's groceries? TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #9
So he doesn't die bravenak Dec 2016 #12
I now see your post above. Bummer that this falls on you. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #13
I try to only show up and give him his handouts. No talky. He's too dumb bravenak Dec 2016 #14
Not that dumb since he has you buying him groceries. LisaL Dec 2016 #38
I'm a different kind of dumb bravenak Dec 2016 #59
Would he die if he sold his SUV? DFW Dec 2016 #42
That is his reason for living bravenak Dec 2016 #51
That must be a hard thing to subsidize DFW Dec 2016 #76
You don't think he'd sell the SUV before starving? Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #56
No bravenak Dec 2016 #58
You're a bigger person than me kimbutgar Dec 2016 #18
+1 PugDadDem Dec 2016 #43
I hear ya! Adrahil Dec 2016 #19
I find it infuriating. But it's my relative bravenak Dec 2016 #20
I still love my sister too.... Adrahil Dec 2016 #22
it's your relative bilking US taxpayers AND you! wordpix Dec 2016 #25
You are incredibly magnanimous WhiteTara Dec 2016 #23
I should sell him some bootstraps, but he's too dumb to get the joke bravenak Dec 2016 #24
When gas prices rise -and they will - LisaM Dec 2016 #26
Are you being sarcastic? Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2016 #27
Why? Barack_America Dec 2016 #28
My cousins in Pennsylvania voted for him because they are racists. I am embarrassed that hrmjustin Dec 2016 #29
Just curious...why are they rascists? Seems like your family is not. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #32
Great question that I do not have an answer to. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #33
Interesting how some people when exposed to diversity become more tolerant AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #81
Yes. My neighborhood has had an influx of Middle Eastern immigrants in the past few hrmjustin Dec 2016 #82
Here's a tidbit to cheer up your Trump-voting relatives - Vinca Dec 2016 #30
I hope she goes bankrupt bravenak Dec 2016 #50
tRump nor his family will ever go broke now ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #60
Its desperate bravenak Dec 2016 #64
I see Trump voters among my patients ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #31
It's always so weird to talk politucs with him bravenak Dec 2016 #49
I wonder if they'll be ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #61
I guess you're lucky he is skinny. HassleCat Dec 2016 #34
I know exactly how you feel. Croney Dec 2016 #35
Excellent! tavernier Dec 2016 #39
That would be great for me to do bravenak Dec 2016 #48
So you are purchasing groceries for a guy who you say does work, also has various assistance, and LisaL Dec 2016 #36
No, you don't have to pay for his groceries. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #37
+1 Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #44
Tell him he can budget better or go to the food pantry. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #70
And you are not letting him rely on the soon pigliCON safety net why? lonestarnot Dec 2016 #40
Yeah melman Dec 2016 #41
You're a bigger person that I am. nycbos Dec 2016 #45
You are in an unique position to deliver a dose of reality to your cousin stopbush Dec 2016 #46
Lol, no, he should move back home to LA bravenak Dec 2016 #47
A lot of people are saying we shouldn't talk down to these folks.. JHan Dec 2016 #52
I finally cut off a relative 5 years ago. Nothing ever changed -- it was always an "emergency".... Hekate Dec 2016 #53
Yep. I told him to get it from my sister from now on bravenak Dec 2016 #54
I used to work for a state Medicaid program. The white wingers who suddenly found themselves in Hoyt Dec 2016 #55
I see it all the time bravenak Dec 2016 #57
I'd put a note with the food that read: "Every bite you take is courtesy of your Liberal Cousin Siwsan Dec 2016 #62
I'll say it's from OBAMA. He really hates obama more than anything bravenak Dec 2016 #65
Good idea Siwsan Dec 2016 #77
You're a better person than I am radical noodle Dec 2016 #63
No i'm not. I will give it to him very nastily bravenak Dec 2016 #68
It sounds like he deserves at least that radical noodle Dec 2016 #73
You are a compassionate person. pbmus Dec 2016 #67
Nope. I am not nice I just want to say something mean as i give him a handout bravenak Dec 2016 #69
Well, I'm done with helping people who need a new SUV and can't afford food. Choices consequences SharonAnn Dec 2016 #71
Thanks, Jesus, for this food Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #72
I hope you're telling him this is a one-time thing. Squinch Dec 2016 #74
What did he request at the grocery store? Ilsa Dec 2016 #78
I guess you are a better person than me sabbat hunter Dec 2016 #79
Damn bravenak, you're good! Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #80

metroins

(2,550 posts)
1. Lots in my family are broke
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:42 AM
Dec 2016

They voted Trump, even though the GOP is going to cut their social services.

It is stupidity.

These people are just plain stupid.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. My cousin is stupid too
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:44 AM
Dec 2016

And my uncle too. But they are delighted that Trump is going to save them from mexicans. Fucked up thing is we are black and HISPANIC.

 

sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
15. My neighbor is a Black Trump supporter
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 10:00 AM
Dec 2016

He drives trucks and is highly religious. He likes that Trump will get Mexicans off the roads and bring jobs back. I haven't pried because every conversation ends with a Clinton joke, but I wonder how he balances Trumps racism. He and his wife were Mitt Romney'smonly two votes in my precinct, BTW, so this is more a Republican thing than a Trump thing.


 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
16. Trump was more openly hostile to mexicans than blacks so he might be able to rationalize it
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 10:08 AM
Dec 2016

Some black folks actually blame other black fols too, and think it's the 'bad blacks' that make the rest of us look bad. Just like that guy with the taco truck comments.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
21. They really believe this.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:03 PM
Dec 2016

But it's not going to happen.

What will happen is that will lose any vestige of a
safety net that they depend on now.

Hard times a comin doesn't even begin to describe it.

enid602

(8,614 posts)
66. anything
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

I would give anything to see the look on my tRumplover fundie BIL's face when Uncle Sam hands him a $1500 voucher for his next bypass.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
5. Your cousin has zero self awareness.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:45 AM
Dec 2016

You must have the heart of a saint to be willing to help him. He sounds like a NOT very good person.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. He is a nasty person
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Dec 2016

He was the band of my childhood but he had a transplant and rejected the organ. I have to feed him, he could die. But he is still an evil bastard. But liberals feed even the evil. I better do it this morning, or I might skip it all together.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
17. You are awesome
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 12:19 PM
Dec 2016

I pray he wakes up to reality someday soon. You are the nicest person on earth to me at the moment. No lie.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
75. Wow, Brave
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:05 PM
Dec 2016

That's above and beyond. I get that his health is at risk, but someone (you?) needs to sit him down and force him to listen to some simple home truths.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. And what makes him think all Mexicans are getting food stamps? OK then he at least will be doing
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:48 AM
Dec 2016

some cheap labor for you for that cash you dole out to him by his reality

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
8. Dude needs to pull himself up by his own freaking hobnail boots
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Dec 2016

I am sure Comrade Casino and his cabal of deploreable Republican Cronies will teach him that lesson by kicking his support under their freakkin gold-plated casino bus.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
38. Not that dumb since he has you buying him groceries.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:31 PM
Dec 2016

While he is driving around in his new SUV and is visiting CA four times a year.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
76. That must be a hard thing to subsidize
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 07:50 PM
Dec 2016

I'm glad I'm not the one who had to make your choice.

Die of starvation, or die of lack of SUV, if both are equally terminal to him, he is a medical marvel.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
56. You don't think he'd sell the SUV before starving?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:33 PM
Dec 2016

I wonder if we'll see alot of that during the Trump regime. Shrivelled up mummies inside fancy, expensive SUVs.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
58. No
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:35 PM
Dec 2016

I have watched him in organ failure. No. He did wake up to make sure to ask about his car. But not to tell me his dog was home alone inside with no food or water. He'd die before he gave his reason for existing up. Just like some folks are about their guns. Crazy

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
18. You're a bigger person than me
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

I'd tell him that he should be a good rethug and take care of himself. Because he has to pull himself up by the bootstraps. No more government hand outs. Have you ever pointed out his hypocrisy to him ?

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. I hear ya!
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 12:59 PM
Dec 2016

My sister, whom I love very much, does the same kind of shit. She and her husband work hard, but they are not high-paying jobs.

My sister finally admitted to me that she voted for Trump. Her reason? Her health insurance is too expensive. OFFS...

Last week, she and I finally had a confrontation. On the same day, within THREE HOURS she posted that she can't afford health insurance, AND posted pics of her and her husband's (my BIL) new matching Harley Davidsons. Custom paint!

Talk about entitlement....

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
23. You are incredibly magnanimous
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

I would smile and tell him that you are not able to do these things for him and that by working on his own problem, he will have satisfaction of knowing that he is part of making Amerikkka great again.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,566 posts)
27. Are you being sarcastic?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:04 PM
Dec 2016

Seriously, why would you do such a thing (buy groceries) when you say he can afford them himself?

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
28. Why?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:04 PM
Dec 2016

Please don't take offense at the question, it just seems like your cousin isn't deserving or appreciative of your generosity.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
29. My cousins in Pennsylvania voted for him because they are racists. I am embarrassed that
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:06 PM
Dec 2016

I am related to them. They were not raised that way and my 92 year old aunt is Appalled at their behavior and their vote.

Other parts of my family who voted for him claim other reasons but the ones in PA admit the real reason.

Luckily my immediate family here in Brooklyn are all Democrats.

My Facebook experience this year has not been pleasant. The only reason I keep FB is to make sure no one died.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
32. Just curious...why are they rascists? Seems like your family is not.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:17 PM
Dec 2016

I just always imagined that most rascist people are rascists because they were raised that way. From one generation to the next. Their whole family is rascist so that is all they know? How did only a few of your family BECOME rascist? Friends? Gangs..in this case, kkk?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
33. Great question that I do not have an answer to.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:23 PM
Dec 2016

The only thing I can think of they originally lived in a block on Brooklyn that went from Italian to very diverse and they resented it. That is why they moved.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
81. Interesting how some people when exposed to diversity become more tolerant
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:50 PM
Dec 2016

And others become less tolerant.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
82. Yes. My neighborhood has had an influx of Middle Eastern immigrants in the past few
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:37 AM
Dec 2016

decades. For the most part they have settled nicely here but last night a Muslim female Cop and her son were threatened. They got a suspect and charged him but it goes to show you how some here haven't excepted the changes.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
30. Here's a tidbit to cheer up your Trump-voting relatives -
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:10 PM
Dec 2016

I heard this morning that Ivanka is moving the manufacturing of her clothing from China (aka GHINA). She won't be having it made in Cincinnati or Raleigh or Detroit or Pittsburgh. Nope. She's moving it to Ethiopia. Make American great again.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
60. tRump nor his family will ever go broke now ...
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:37 PM
Dec 2016

He'll really become a billionaire because he's going to use the USA HE and his grifting families giant slush fund. Settling his debt with China and Russia and whomever he owes money to, and Russia will be on the rampage in whatever way they want to be over in Europe. Whose to stop them? Also, tRump's going to be selling off parts of the USA to the highest non-US bidder at an alarming rate.

This country will not resemble anything we know at this moment in 2016.

Your cousin will be in such debt/despair eventually that you won't be able to support him and yourself and you'll have to turn him loose to fend for himself unless YOU want to be on the street with him.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
31. I see Trump voters among my patients
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:15 PM
Dec 2016

Some of them have similar stories and are on Medicaid.

I, of course don't discuss politics with them, all I can do is shake my head

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
49. It's always so weird to talk politucs with him
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:09 PM
Dec 2016

Once I do I realize he watches fox news. I notice that the tv in all the medical places have fox as default. He is a very ill person so he is constantly in the hospital for dialysis problems or whatever. I try to remind him that everybody needs to be able to live, not just him. He calls me dumb, so

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
34. I guess you're lucky he is skinny.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:25 PM
Dec 2016

Same story with my cousins. Their asses are not skinny, but white. They live in farm country, where Mexicans are about the only people not on food stamps.

Croney

(4,657 posts)
35. I know exactly how you feel.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:26 PM
Dec 2016

I'm so pissed at my daughter-in-law I could scream. She not only supports the orange idiot but also posts horrible hateful anti-Hillary memes. This is an unemployed (but able-bodied) woman who grabs any handout or free services she can get, and hates anybody who doesn't look and think like her. I've always been generous with my family. This year I'm seriously considering making a donation to Planned Parenthood in their names and giving them each a Hillshire Farms sausage and cheese box.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
39. Excellent!
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:37 PM
Dec 2016

And be sure to give them the thank you card from planned parenthood for their generous donation!!

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
48. That would be great for me to do
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:06 PM
Dec 2016

I wont buy him anything for xmas. He is already getting what he's getting from me for a good long time

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
36. So you are purchasing groceries for a guy who you say does work, also has various assistance, and
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:30 PM
Dec 2016

has a brand new SUV (those aren't cheap). And has enough money to buy plane tickets four times a year.
All righty then.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
37. No, you don't have to pay for his groceries.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:30 PM
Dec 2016

Tell him he can budget better or go to the food pantry.

If he has a new SUV he can buy his own groceries. Pure and simple.

What you are doing is enabling him. Don't. Starting this month.

If someone else in the family wants to buy him groceries let them. But explain to them, and him, why you aren't doing it.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
70. Tell him he can budget better or go to the food pantry.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:11 PM
Dec 2016

Something tells me that with 1 in 7 families nationwide depending on food banks/pantries across this country (And usage is currently at a record high), that number's going to go WAYYYYY up over the next 4 years under a pence/tRump/putin administration.

I have a friend whose donated her time for many years off and on working at the Los Angeles Regional Food Bank here in the LA County area, and she tells me that there are doing well. That donations come in steadily and that they usually have food on hand. However, she tells me that many in the food banking community are--and excuse my French--scared "shitless" at what this next administration will bring over the next 4 years and beyond. She's lifelong Catholic and cursing is not in her vocabulary, so it stunned me when she said shitless--and said it over and over again when we were talking a few weeks ago

I fully admit that I can be pretty pessimistic and very stark at times and for extended periods of time, but my friend has always been the optimist for not only me, but for our/her friends and family, and I/we love her so because she's never allowed me/us to get down or stay down emotionally. But, after what happened TO this country on November 8th, after that racist, crazy, insane dictator was put INTO the presidency, not only is her faith shaken, but many of her friends who work/volunteer in and around the food bank community that she corresponds with are pretty scared and sad because they feel austerity's coming and coming fast and hard to ALL food banks across this country. I can honestly say this is just about the first time that I've seen her negative and sullen like this for an extended period of time after an election, and I've known her for almost 28 years.

IF she's like this, then I KNOW I'm like

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
46. You are in an unique position to deliver a dose of reality to your cousin
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 03:45 PM
Dec 2016

by NOT spending a dime on his grocieries this month. Let him use the money he's saving to make those four trips to CA this year. Do us Californians a favor and keep him at home...please!

JHan

(10,173 posts)
52. A lot of people are saying we shouldn't talk down to these folks..
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:18 PM
Dec 2016

People are telling me we should be empathetic and not insult them..

but it sucks you're caught up in this trap. The sacrifices we make for family... even when they do dumb shit.

Seriously, if he's such a bum, a little tough love maybe needed.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
53. I finally cut off a relative 5 years ago. Nothing ever changed -- it was always an "emergency"....
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:20 PM
Dec 2016

Month after month and year after year, until the "loans" were about 20 grand.

I was emotionally stretched to the limit by other events and ended up screaming NO at the last request when I finally snapped. Had to explain to my husband that it would never make a difference; that in the future she would stagger on with the same behavior and the same emergencies, and there was nothing we could do to make it change.

Nothing has changed, except she decided the "loans" were a gift. Oh, and she doesn't like me.

The other change? She doesn't get to emotionally blackmail me any more.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
54. Yep. I told him to get it from my sister from now on
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:23 PM
Dec 2016

She loves to enable him. Loves it. She gets to play martyr. I refuse to happily hand it over.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
55. I used to work for a state Medicaid program. The white wingers who suddenly found themselves in
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:29 PM
Dec 2016

need of assistance would invariably explain how they need those benefits, unlike Blacks (sometimes using another word) and other minorities (back 35 years ago, the bigots had not targeted "Mexicans" for their hatred). It was hard not to say, screw you Ahole.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
57. I see it all the time
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:33 PM
Dec 2016

I get to be one of the 'good ones' so often I want to throw up. I have excellent elocution and they just love hearing me speak. Fucking gross when they accidentally say it out loud. I never know exactly what to say. I usually just say " No! Don't start that shit up, I do not have time right now." If I engage it can last hours. No. Just no.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
62. I'd put a note with the food that read: "Every bite you take is courtesy of your Liberal Cousin
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:39 PM
Dec 2016

And as hard as it may be, try to not consider this to be a handout, even though it is."

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
77. Good idea
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 08:56 PM
Dec 2016

Blind, misplaced hatred is so frustrating. I have a couple of cousins who fall into that category and I really don't have anything to do with them, anymore. The next time I see them will probably be at their funerals. Pretty sad, but I just can't deal with the ignorance.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
68. No i'm not. I will give it to him very nastily
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

A good person would not be planning what mean shit to say and plan on rubbing it in.

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
71. Well, I'm done with helping people who need a new SUV and can't afford food. Choices consequences
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 06:15 PM
Dec 2016

For me, I've decided that I'm just enabling them, so I'm careful about who I support and which programs I support.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
78. What did he request at the grocery store?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 09:59 PM
Dec 2016

Lobster and t-bones? Wine aisle? Sorry. I can't get past the SUV, but no groceries.

I'd get him some tuna, mac & cheese, pinto beans and peanut butter. No reason he can't survive on bland food until he learns to budget better. Or, maybe he could hook up with some great mexican cooks and learn to make his meals delicioso on a budget.

sabbat hunter

(6,828 posts)
79. I guess you are a better person than me
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 10:15 PM
Dec 2016

I wouldn't give him one thin dime until he sold the SUV. Maybe not even after that.

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