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Blue Shoes

(220 posts)
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:00 AM Dec 2016

Positive vs Negative campaign marketing.

Regardless of which candidate you feel matched up best vs Trump; there are other aspects of the campaign that need to be discussed.

One that I think has been sorely neglected has been the approach to how candidates presented themselves to the public on a slew of issues.
While Trump almost certainly wasted no time bashing Clinton whenever possible, what he did do was unanimously declare he would "do things"; build a wall, register all Muslims, etc. This is opposed to much of the Democratic, which centered around how awful every aspect of Trump was.

My assertion is that voters, particularly those who feel abandoned by economic changes, responded strongly to the candidate who promised action; whatever that may have been. The Democratic marketing of "Lets not do all of these awful ideas" was less resounding as these voters were looking for literally ANY change.

Another aspect of this difference in marketing strategy was that attacks on Trump objectively didn't motivate the Democratic base to GOTV. This was one of the lowest turnout elections in quite some time, and we ALWAYS win high turnout elections. Far more people agree with Democratic economic and social policies, they simply need to be galvanized to be driven to the polls and from the data this election has provided, its obvious negative marketing doesn't do that.

I think its more effective to play up what Democrats will do if elected (clean energy jobs, rebuilding infrastructure, strengthening social safety net) as opposed to simply saying were not the party of pussy grabbers, because all that statement says is that we're slightly better then pond scum which isn't particularly motivating.

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Positive vs Negative campaign marketing. (Original Post) Blue Shoes Dec 2016 OP
Again. hillary won voters making under 50K. Trump won voters making 70K+. boston bean Dec 2016 #1
A slight red herring Blue Shoes Dec 2016 #2
Hillary won the MAJORITY of voters ... NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #3
Well then we need better ads. Blue Shoes Dec 2016 #4
' Hillary won the MAJORITY of voters' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #5
She lost the EC. NanceGreggs Dec 2016 #6

Blue Shoes

(220 posts)
2. A slight red herring
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:39 AM
Dec 2016

Hillary won nationwide for >50k, however she fell short in key states for this demographic.

Regardless, turning out more people in a demographic that votes in our favor is always preferable.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
3. Hillary won the MAJORITY of voters ...
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:23 AM
Dec 2016

... so tell me again where she went all wrong.

The truth is that too many voters cast their ballots based on what a candidate says rather than what they actually do.

How stupid do you have to be to believe that Trump - who has ALL of his brand-name merchandise AND all of the furnishings for his hotels manufactured in low-wage countries - is on the side of the hard-working American?

Really - just how STUPID do you have to be?

That's what we're up against - not the "wrong" ad or the "wrong" approach. We're up against voters too stupid to look beyond the ads.

Blue Shoes

(220 posts)
4. Well then we need better ads.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:38 PM
Dec 2016

Hillary won majority of voters, but still lost EC. Its good to know that we should have won, but we didn't win by the system in the place at the moment. We either need to change the system (get rid of EC) or change our strategy.

That's what we're up against - not the "wrong" ad or the "wrong" approach. We're up against voters too stupid to look beyond the ads.


That means we need to change our strategy to win those voters, if idiots who live in the rust belt won the election for Trump we need to win them so it doesn't happen again.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
6. She lost the EC.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:46 PM
Dec 2016

That doesn't change the fact that she was the majority of votes.

Or maybe you don't know the difference?

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