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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,734 posts)
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:50 PM Dec 2016

America will soon be ruled by a minority

Starting next month, the United States will have a minority government.

This assertion flies in the face of just about everything you have read, because the Republicans will control the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives. But the American system of representation, invented 229 years ago for 13 states that hugged the Atlantic shore, is more than ever out of tune with how the country’s citizens have distributed themselves, across now 50 states and between metropolitan areas and the countryside.

For the next two and probably four years, a majority of Americans will be governed by politicians largely elected by a minority of us. With the country already sharply divided, this is a problem that can no longer be politely ignored. Worse still, a government put in place by the peculiar workings of an outdated system is threatening to pursue quite radical policies destined to arouse considerable resistance from the disempowered majority.

The first problem is the electoral college. On only three occasions from the first presidential election in 1788 through 1996 did the loser of the popular vote become president. Two were unusual contests: 1824, when four candidates split the electoral votes; and 1876, when the returns from three Southern states were disputed, a special “Electoral Commission” was formed, and a deal was arranged to make Rutherford B. Hayes president. Benjamin Harrison’s election in 1888 was a more standard affair; his popular vote deficit to incumbent Grover Cleveland was modest, 89,293 votes (0.8 percent).

But the pace of anti-democratic outcomes is picking up. Since 2000, the loser of the popular vote has “won” two elections. George W. Bush became president in 2001 after losing the popular vote to Al Gore by 543,895. And this year came what ought to be — but, alas, won’t be — the result that should concentrate everyone’s attention on the dysfunction of our electoral rules. Hillary Clinton leads in the popular vote count by 2.7 million (2 percent), and her advantage is likely to grow. But Donald Trump is becoming our president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/america-will-soon-be-ruled-by-a-minority/2016/12/07/fb1491ac-bcb7-11e6-ac85-094a21c44abc_story.html?utm_term=.171065c5e8f0&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1#comments

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America will soon be ruled by a minority (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 OP
Kkk has arrived pbmus Dec 2016 #1
Sadly, the end result will likely be significant violence and civil discord. As this progresses RKP5637 Dec 2016 #2
This is a participatory democracy. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #3
OWS tried that, they were significantly suppressed by TPTB. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #4
But who did OWS inspire? yallerdawg Dec 2016 #5
I think something will eventually happen as millions are affected by the new regime. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2016 #8
Over the past 10 years, Republicans have won the vast majority of the Governorships, state Trust Buster Dec 2016 #6
gerrymander... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #10
The Senate and Governors can't be gerrymandered. former9thward Dec 2016 #13
The house is gerrymandered. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #17
I only addressed your comment on gerrymandering. former9thward Dec 2016 #21
They can be voter suppressed though uponit7771 Dec 2016 #20
Turns out, it is exactly what we thought and we actually won the vote. Coyotl Dec 2016 #11
+1, the national numbers were correct the numbers in voter suppression states weren't uponit7771 Dec 2016 #19
The United States really does need to be, and will probably soon become... Binkie The Clown Dec 2016 #7
Not so sure I'd put Idaho in Cascadia Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #12
How did the east coastal elite wind up with the midwest? treestar Dec 2016 #18
California belongs with OR and WA. ID is as redneck as it gets. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #22
Sue. Coyotl Dec 2016 #9
How do you define "minority"? former9thward Dec 2016 #14
Well I didn't write the article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #16
VA doesn't belong with the confederate states. It's gone blue in the last 3 elections. ohheckyeah Dec 2016 #15

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
2. Sadly, the end result will likely be significant violence and civil discord. As this progresses
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 03:59 PM
Dec 2016

millions will have had it with the bullshit, especially if we are moving toward another war. Especially when the Trump supporters FINALLY realize they have been F'ed over as stupid losers for the Trump vote.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. This is a participatory democracy.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Dec 2016

We can always rise up and scare the bejesus out of our representatives - at every level.

Let's see just how crazy they are.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. But who did OWS inspire?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:10 PM
Dec 2016

And how did it influence subsequent candidates and platforms?

And will OWS be back when the Republicans try to gut Wall Street curbs and regulations?

Including Elizabeth Warren's baby?

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
6. Over the past 10 years, Republicans have won the vast majority of the Governorships, state
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 04:32 PM
Dec 2016

legislatures, the Senate, the House and now the White House. If the Republicans are the "minority", then they are the most successful "minority" that I have ever seen. I think the better explanation is that, we on the Left, miscalculated the pulse of America. Turns out, this is not the country we thought it was.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
17. The house is gerrymandered.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:18 AM
Dec 2016

And I beg to differ about the governorships...they are affected by voter suppression. Look at Michigan and tell me the GOP didn't cheat.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. Turns out, it is exactly what we thought and we actually won the vote.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 06:12 PM
Dec 2016


65,527,625 versus 62,851,436 = a margin of 2.676 million.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. How did the east coastal elite wind up with the midwest?
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:25 AM
Dec 2016

I think that one would be divided in two at Ohio.

former9thward

(31,935 posts)
14. How do you define "minority"?
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:26 PM
Dec 2016

Either Clinton or Trump would have been a minority President. Both got a minority of votes of those who actually voted. Bill Clinton got a minority of votes of those who voted in both 92 and 96. Bush got a minority in 2000.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,734 posts)
16. Well I didn't write the article
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

But I believe the author was pointing out that Trump was not the one with the most votes. Hillary leads him by about 2.5 million at this point.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
15. VA doesn't belong with the confederate states. It's gone blue in the last 3 elections.
Thu Dec 8, 2016, 07:32 PM
Dec 2016

Give us some credit for having changed.

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