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uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:15 AM Dec 2016

PPP - 67% of Trump voters say that unemployment increased during the Obama administration

[center]NOTE TO DNC: THEY ACTUALLY LIVE IN ANOTHER UNIVERSE !!!
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/12/trump-remains-unpopular-voters-prefer-obama-on-scotus-pick.html

Corrective Action - Hammer home economic messages and the contrast between dem and rep economic outcomes more than ever vs personalities.

Comey, Voter Suppression and Russia are still at the top of why the EC loss... those things dems can only control by pushing laws against them .. the one thing that dems can control is a focus on getting economic FACTS to everyone.

What say you?

thx in advance

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PPP - 67% of Trump voters say that unemployment increased during the Obama administration (Original Post) uponit7771 Dec 2016 OP
Poorly educated deplorables Ohioblue22 Dec 2016 #1
there were a lot of facts out there NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #2
Yeah, media went over emails 3 times more than issues (link) uponit7771 Dec 2016 #3
The problem is that key people believed Trump's lies more than the truth CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #4
Trump knew most (like himself) don't read past the headlines - so he grabbed headlines which mostly bettyellen Dec 2016 #5
See...it's not ALL about racism... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #6
Yes, Thought about this after posting; why in the hell would that false info be so easy to believe?! uponit7771 Dec 2016 #8
Sexism was a bigger factor. duffyduff Dec 2016 #15
Never underestimate triron Dec 2016 #7
Yeah, these people tend to believe anything that's told to them by people they trust. The people .. uponit7771 Dec 2016 #13
Ow my balls!...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #9
Lack of knowledge cuts deep andym Dec 2016 #10
Economic fact deniers are everywhere... including here at DU taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #11
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #12
Of course it didn't. Let's face it, these voters didn't vote on the economy. duffyduff Dec 2016 #14
YES!! That's the MAIN difference between PBO and HRC's prez run; PBO wasn't running against an uponit7771 Dec 2016 #17
The Democrats can't do shit if the media refuses to report it. duffyduff Dec 2016 #16
and i bet a good number(at least enough to change results) would have voted if they thought Trump JI7 Dec 2016 #18

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. there were a lot of facts out there
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 11:45 AM
Dec 2016

but, nobody paid attention to them. Other than Hillary's emails, nobody paid attention to what she said in almost all of her speeches. They media cared about Trump tweets and/or outrageous statements, Clinton emails and that was about it.

She got good coverage from her first big speech on Trump, but almost nothing after that until the debates. She could have talked about the economy for 10 hours a day, but if nobody paid attention to it, does it matter?

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
4. The problem is that key people believed Trump's lies more than the truth
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:22 PM
Dec 2016

There is little helping under informed voters because they believe what they want to hear. They don't care about reality if reality doesn't agree with their perceptions and they perceive poorly.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. Trump knew most (like himself) don't read past the headlines - so he grabbed headlines which mostly
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

Repeated his lines verbatim. You had to read 3-4 paragraphs in till the "misstatements" were gently noted.
It wasn't till late September until the NYT apologized for not ever using the word lie.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
8. Yes, Thought about this after posting; why in the hell would that false info be so easy to believe?!
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 02:29 PM
Dec 2016

I wish someone would do a breakdown of the economy in these rural areas from beginning of Obama admin till now

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
13. Yeah, these people tend to believe anything that's told to them by people they trust. The people ..
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 09:31 PM
Dec 2016

... they trust in no way can be just wrong or just get information wrong.

andym

(5,443 posts)
10. Lack of knowledge cuts deep
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 02:57 PM
Dec 2016

it's the same reason why Feingold lost in WI, after leading by 10% on Oct 1. An onslaught of misleading ads can finish off just about any candidate these days, as long as voters can't distinguish fact from fiction. About 40-60% of voters are ignorant of issues or current events, if not even more actively misinformed.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
11. Economic fact deniers are everywhere... including here at DU
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

Lot's of people here believe inflation is running rampant when it's been almost zero for years.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
14. Of course it didn't. Let's face it, these voters didn't vote on the economy.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
Dec 2016

They voted the way they did because Trump channeled their inner bigot.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
17. YES!! That's the MAIN difference between PBO and HRC's prez run; PBO wasn't running against an
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:30 PM
Dec 2016

... overt racist so of course the people who voted Obama would vote against HRC if there was an overt racist running for prez.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
16. The Democrats can't do shit if the media refuses to report it.
Fri Dec 9, 2016, 10:24 PM
Dec 2016

You still believe Dems can reach these idiots. They can't.

It is a waste of time.

Half of the population didn't bother to vote. That is where Dems need to go, not cater to bigots and morons.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
18. and i bet a good number(at least enough to change results) would have voted if they thought Trump
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:12 AM
Dec 2016

could actually win.

but i think there were some who thought Trump just could not win so it was ok if they didn't vote. these are people who would vote democratic if they vote. but they are the type that would easily not vote for no serious reason .

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