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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:25 PM Dec 2016

There seems to be a lot of handwringing about the term Identity Politics and what it means

it does not mean voting for a woman because you are a woman.

it mean voting for a person who will most further your feminist agenda, if you are a feminist.

voting for a person who will further your queer agenda, if you prioritize gay rights.

it is voting for the person who most aligns with the identity that is salient to you politically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics

This is why no one on this board who identifies as a feminist voted for Sarah Palin, but plenty voted for Obama and HRC.

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There seems to be a lot of handwringing about the term Identity Politics and what it means (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP
Are you pulling my leg? NCTraveler Dec 2016 #1
lol. wish i were pulling your leg. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2
well terms mean whatever they do by the person using them.Words mean different things in JCanete Dec 2016 #3
in sanders case he used it incorrectly. he was talking about tokenism and called it identity La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #4
TIL "Identity Politics" and "Being PC" mean something else when Bernie says it. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #8
I was just excoriated for be "party of politics" WhiteTara Dec 2016 #11
We may be living "post-truth," but we're not "post-dictionary" yet. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #5
+1 La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6
Language is far more living and evolving than that. It wasn't handed down on tablets from heaven. JCanete Dec 2016 #7
language evolves, but this was just straight up incorrect usage of a RW term that derides civil La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #10
Who's wringing their hands? White dudes? nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #9
Shhh! WhiteTara Dec 2016 #12
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. Are you pulling my leg?
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

This makes way too much sense.

K&R

Additional +1 for showing the proper use of "agenda" when referenced with these terms.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
3. well terms mean whatever they do by the person using them.Words mean different things in
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:01 PM
Dec 2016

different contexts. Philosophers spend their early chapters defining those. In Sander's case, he defined his use of the term also.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. in sanders case he used it incorrectly. he was talking about tokenism and called it identity
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:05 PM
Dec 2016

politics.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
8. TIL "Identity Politics" and "Being PC" mean something else when Bernie says it.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:25 PM
Dec 2016

For once, I'd love it if the folks that rushed to defend him on these things actually listened to what he said. Just like I wish they'd listen to him when he says he is not a democrat.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
11. I was just excoriated for be "party of politics"
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 03:34 PM
Dec 2016

but I do remember what he said, both before and during the election and it seems that he has his own agenda.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
5. We may be living "post-truth," but we're not "post-dictionary" yet.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:08 PM
Dec 2016

Words have definitive meanings, actually. And "context" and "definition" are two entirely separate concepts.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
7. Language is far more living and evolving than that. It wasn't handed down on tablets from heaven.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:24 PM
Dec 2016

Words that meant one thing 50 years ago might mean something different today. Usage, whether in your opinion faulty or not, changes meaning.

That said, I'm not invested in saying we should be redefining identity politics. Sanders probably should have used tokenism instead, since identity politics seems to commonly imply that the policies are addressing the needs of these identity groups.
 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
10. language evolves, but this was just straight up incorrect usage of a RW term that derides civil
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:30 PM
Dec 2016

rights coalitions.

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