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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:17 PM Jan 2013

Biden May Be the Most Influential Vice President Ever

By Michael Hirsh

Barack Obama just can’t get enough out of Joe Biden these days. And anybody who’s been following Biden’s steady ascent in stature over the last several years -- from gaffe-happy presidential contender to one of the most powerful vice presidents in U.S. history -- couldn’t be less surprised.

Perhaps the only surprise at all is that, in contrast to a year ago, it took Biden quite this long to become the president’s point man on the latest round of fiscal talks. The exact reason for the delay is not clear. Perhaps it is that, only a week and a half ago, Obama had called on his vice president to lead a commission to expedite recommendations on a truly serious national issue, gun violence (as opposed to the present trumped-up issue, fiscal reform, which requires only the smidgen of political courage necessary to depart from ideological rigidities). Maybe Obama wanted to keep his veep’s powder dry for that.

Or maybe it is just that, in the awkward pattern of political dance partnerships that have emerged over the last couple of years, whenever Obama and Speaker John Boehner fail to execute – as they did after the “Plan B” debacle -- it’s Biden and his old Senate colleague, Mitch McConnell, who step into the spotlight. The Biden-McConnell duo didn’t cut it during last year’s cliffhanger over the debt limit, of course. But in a sign of just how important a figure the vice president has become in Washington, Biden’s absence until now has been one reason that Republicans doubted Obama’s seriousness about cutting a deal, my colleague Chris Frates reported last week.

As the inevitable brinkmanship plays out, it’s useful to step back and look at just how central a role Biden has played throughout Obama’s presidency.

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http://nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/biden-may-be-the-most-influential-vice-president-ever-20121231

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Biden May Be the Most Influential Vice President Ever (Original Post) n2doc Jan 2013 OP
Most influential, non-evil, yes. Arguably, Cheney would rival him for "most influential" (yet evil) hlthe2b Jan 2013 #1
Right, you beat me to it, hlthe2b. elleng Jan 2013 #5
Deadeye Dick bongbong Jan 2013 #7
True. Cheney's the only vice president who actually chose himself to be vice president, after TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10
Good article. Just don't read the comments. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #2
no way. unblock Jan 2013 #3
Kudos to Biden for the experience...and Obama for the wisdom to seek it! NRaleighLiberal Jan 2013 #4
Cheney was the most Influential Vice President Ever UCmeNdc Jan 2013 #6
In Darth Sidious sort of way (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #9
I'm not sure if he's the "most influential" Vice President ever... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #8
A great VP davidpdx Jan 2013 #15
Meaning Hillay is FUCKED if she runs in 2016 bigdarryl Jan 2013 #11
I don't think it will matter davidpdx Jan 2013 #14
sounds good cowgirlup Jan 2013 #12
Biden will never weild more influence than Darth Cheney did. Lil Missy Jan 2013 #13
Biden is a "git-r-done" kind of guy. hamsterjill Jan 2013 #16

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
1. Most influential, non-evil, yes. Arguably, Cheney would rival him for "most influential" (yet evil)
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013
 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
7. Deadeye Dick
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jan 2013

Cheney doesn't qualify for most influential vice-president, since he wasn't a vice-president. For eight long years he was acting president.

The guy that most people thought was president spent most of his days in a drunken haze, occasionally showing his face to make a Cheney-approved speech or deliver gaffes.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
10. True. Cheney's the only vice president who actually chose himself to be vice president, after
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:12 PM
Jan 2013

pretending to vet VP candidates for GWB. Georgie had nothing to do with it. Uncle Dick told him how it was going to be.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
3. no way.
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:21 PM
Jan 2013

both gore and cheney were more influential.

cheney for evil and behind-the-scenes, with perhaps the exception of shrub's last couple of years.

gore for good and across a wide range of issues, most notably getting every department in the federal government to put extensive information on web pages, which had a huge role in bringing about the internet as we know it (lost in the lie about him using the word "invent" was the undeniable fact that he did quite a lot to advance the internet in many ways).

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
6. Cheney was the most Influential Vice President Ever
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 12:47 PM
Jan 2013

He actually ran the presidency of George W. Bush from his VP office.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
8. I'm not sure if he's the "most influential" Vice President ever...
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

But he's hands-down the coolest dude to ever hold the office



I loves me some Joe Biden!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
14. I don't think it will matter
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:04 AM
Jan 2013

I'd bet both will decide to step out of the limelight and retire.

Biden is a great VP

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
16. Biden is a "git-r-done" kind of guy.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jan 2013

He's the guy others turn to when they want something accomplished.

Love my Vice President!

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