Obama Mulls Far Broader Gun Control

[babylonsister]

Follow the $$, impact the bottom line, results should follow. IMO.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/01/06/obama_mulls_far_broader_gun_control.html


January 06, 2013

Obama Mulls Far Broader Gun Control


The White House "is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation's gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition," the Washington Post reports.

The measures "would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors."

Key point: "To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses."

[NYC_SKP]

1. He's so smart, he knows enough not to try ideas doomed to fail.

And he doesn't appeal to the extremists at either end of the spectrum.

He's looking for reasonable solutions that have a chance of success in passing and in actually reducing violence over time.

K/R

[Loudly]

2. Don't forget shutting down the manufacture and sale of new product.

If you don't turn off the spigot, proliferation and misuse just worsens.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

14. I feel the same way about zombies

How do we stop them here?

[MannyGoldstein]

3. That will happen

[MjolnirTime]

8. Your ability for prophecy has proven to be non-existent.

Let us know when Obama cuts Social Security, ok?

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Link or slink.

Point to one of my posts and let's see what you got.

Or apologize.

[MjolnirTime]

16. Do you really need me to prove that you are one of the most virulent Anti-Obama posters here?

I think you know yourself better than that.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Nice. Switching claims.

I think we safely assume that's an admission that your first claim was false.

[MjolnirTime]

18. My claim that you have no idea what you're talking about stands.

You have been an Obama detractor from before he was elected
and you will likely be so until he finishes this term.

Do you really the your attempts at obfuscation can hide this?

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Wrong.

I was an Obama supporter in the 2008 primaries, the election, did a spit-take when he appointed Rahm and Summers, then knew the fix was in when he started talking about the need to cut Social Security a week or so before his first inauguration.

Look it up.

I expect an apology.

[samsingh]

4. encouraging

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. I read this as these "broader" measures are in addition to and not instead of...

...such things as banning hi-capacity/rapid fire guns.

[Comatose Sphagetti]

6. Hand-fed, single shot firearms only.

No clips, magazines, cylinders, drums, etc. Six months to turn anything else in. You're paid $500 for each banned weapon. Get caught it's an automatic five years.

Flame on.

[hack89]

7. We don't flame fantasies. nt

[Comatose Sphagetti]

9. "We?"

[hack89]

10. I have a mouse in my pocket. nt

[otohara]

15. Sounds Heavenly

no flame here.

Even though I have no idea what drums are in relation to guns.
But then I thought magazines were something people read in the doctors office.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. Related post here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014358138

[dickthegrouch]

13. Make the manufacturers responsible for the checks on first sales

There's no reason we gun haters have to spend our taxes on the personal choices of people with guns or wanting them.

[JohnnyBoots]

19. What is 'High Capacity Ammunition?' NT

[hack89]

21. He better find a way to work around Senate Democrats.

they are the real obstacle. Harry Reid is an NRA supporter and there are at least 10 Democratic Senators from conservative, pro-gun states seeking reelection in 2014.

Gun control will die in the Senate.

[babylonsister]

22. Maybe not. Aren't we ALL sick of hearing about gun deaths?

Logical measures will not be opposed, at least by normal thinking people. But then there's that...

[hack89]

23. The Dems have already admitted that there will not be an AWB

This was the story a week after your article.

Washington (CNN) -- Unlike most issues these days that divide along party lines, the immediate fate of President Obama's new gun proposals will depend not as much on Republicans as his fellow Democrats in the Senate.

Senate Democratic leadership sources tell CNN that passing any new legislation will be extremely difficult because more than a dozen vulnerable Democrats from conservative states will probably resist much of what the president is pushing.

These Democratic sources say the most likely legislation to pass will be strengthening background checks, since it is the least overt form of gun control and it also appeals to gun rights advocates' emphasis on keeping guns away from people with mental health and criminal problems.

Democratic leadership sources say they intend to spend next week -- the first week the Senate is in session -- canvassing red-state Democrats to see what, if anything, is doable. Democratic senators who advocate various gun control measures will be lobbying their colleagues as well.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/16/politics/senate-democrats-gun-legislation/index.html

Some laws will be passed but no AWB.

btw - I support the President's EOs plus universal background checks and a limit on magazine size.