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monmouth

(21,078 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:45 PM Apr 2012

Do you think Romney is looking at the big picture and has any idea of what humiliation

is in store for him? Granted, we are seven months away from the election, but I'm sure his gaffes and simply unrealistic statements will continue right on, whether he has a viable vice-presidential candidate to share the stage with him, or not. Romney seems to not understand that repubs are not into him, not at all. Talk of repubs voting for Obama this time around, not out of any great love, but the general feeling that he is a very capable, serious and globally admired POTUS.

I seriously think the President will win this election in a landslide, making Romney the biggest loser they have ever nominated, along with losing control of the House. His name will be up there right under dubya. I honestly believe this. Of course the one shining result for the repubs (and the rest of the country for that matter) if this does happen is that hopefully Romney will retire completely from politics never to run for anything again. Personally I don't care. But guys like late night comedians, along with Stuart and Colbert will be looking for new material and targets. You can put lipstick on a pig so many times and then the pig gets ticked off. Marvelous!

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Do you think Romney is looking at the big picture and has any idea of what humiliation (Original Post) monmouth Apr 2012 OP
I think he is so cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #1
I don't think the insulation is the reason LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #20
that could be cindyperry2010 Apr 2012 #21
I don't think he will take to it very well. RDANGELO Apr 2012 #2
I think that TPTB and the presstitutes in the M$M will do their level best to get Rmoney elected... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #3
no, they won't. they'll pump enough money in to keep him plausible, but not victorious. unblock Apr 2012 #5
in broad strokes, the november is almost a foregone conclusion. unblock Apr 2012 #4
This is how I see it, too. It will NOT be a "landslide" Cosmocat Apr 2012 #7
Second terms are usually defined by foreign policy Hippo_Tron Apr 2012 #17
Romney's Primary Strategy: Trash the other candidates. That is how he plans to win emulatorloo Apr 2012 #6
It's Romney's stand your ground strategy Hawkowl Apr 2012 #8
Yep, 10's of billions are going to be spent by the GOP SuperPacs and rich right-wingers. AlinPA Apr 2012 #14
It never stops to astonish me how come so many people believe the B.S from Cal33 Apr 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Apr 2012 #12
The only thing I worry about is Citizens United. If it wasn't for that, yes jillan Apr 2012 #10
Romney is the perfect 'dead wood' candidate Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #11
How has Romney won these primaries? Money money money and saturation ads alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #13
And he will get 10's of billions to continue toward the election. AlinPA Apr 2012 #15
You don't see HIS big picture. grantcart Apr 2012 #16
That is a spot on reading of their agenda Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #18
More detail here grantcart Apr 2012 #19
Yes, I do. That is why Romney is building a big house 321Morrow Apr 2012 #22
what if he picks a vp that says hmm ugh, fucky will go for his hose. lonestarnot Apr 2012 #23

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
20. I don't think the insulation is the reason
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:26 PM
Apr 2012

He probably believes that with his money he can make anything happen. He is probably accustomed to things going his way for the most part.

The other angle might also include his minions not daring to correct him for fear of retribution. He might require them to ride in a crate on top of his car.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
2. I don't think he will take to it very well.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:53 PM
Apr 2012

His reasoning for running seems to me to be purely ambition. He doesn't care about helping people. He has done or accomplished pretty much anything he set out to do, even if it required some actual work. This would probably be his first visible failure in his life.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
3. I think that TPTB and the presstitutes in the M$M will do their level best to get Rmoney elected...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

....there will be widespread cases of voter fraud (the real kind, not the dreamed up shit the rethuglicans use as an excuse to purge the rolls of minorities) and intimidation on election day, that will receive very little attention UNLESS it favours Mittens. There will be many instances of the M$M calling ordinarily 'too close to call' states for Mittens, very early on so that the meme of Obama being a 'sore loser' will start nice and early.

I think this is going to be the ugliest, dirtiest Presidential campaign EVER...and if Mittens does make it into the WH, I honestly don't know what I will do...

Obama is no friend to progressives and liberals...but he is light-years ahead of the alternative...

unblock

(52,196 posts)
5. no, they won't. they'll pump enough money in to keep him plausible, but not victorious.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 03:01 PM
Apr 2012

it would be much too expensive to ensure an rmoney win, and they don't really care. the truth is that obama isn't all that bad for filthy rich people, even if his rhetoric on occassion gets under their skin.

their real interest is in making sure republican voters turn out and vote in the congressional (and state-level) elections. in order to do that, they need to make sure rmoney isn't a COMPLETE disaster. but they have no use in funding him beyond that point.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
4. in broad strokes, the november is almost a foregone conclusion.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 02:57 PM
Apr 2012

obama will win comfortably but not a "landslide".

democrats will pick up a few seats in the house (a dozen maybe) but not enough to capture it.

republicans will pick up a few seats in the senate. democrats are more likely than not to hold it at this point, but this is the only major question for november.

imho.


looking past that to 2014, republicans are extremely likely to win back at least a few seats in the house (the party of a 6th-year president almost never gains seats in the house) and are also likely to pick up a few seats in the senate, gaining control if they hadn't already from the 2012 election.

regardless, the next 4 years are very likely to be rancorous and highly unproductive, at least legislatively. second terms usually aren't very productive and republicans will have enough power and inclination to stymie any of obama's proposals.

the real question is 2016. an open election, and much too distant to see with any clarity. but that's where it's at. we're in status quo mode, more or less, until then.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
7. This is how I see it, too. It will NOT be a "landslide"
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:12 PM
Apr 2012

I think people here are getting a little dulled by the dynamics of this particular republican primary to the point where they forget the last 30 or so years.

Because the nominee the powers to be in the republican party picked, Romney, was so unfavorable to the "base" they could not get full out behind him from day one. Because of this, they let their foots off of the press, which has been free for the first time in my adult life to actually call republicans for the lunatics they are, and without having to do the obligatory slamming of Ds to provide cover when any criticism of Rs can't be avoided.

We are almost to the point where Romney is the presumptive candidate, and as we get to that point, the press will be brought back in line. They will protect Romney more and go after BO more. The Rs will not be 100 percent behind Romney, but will be about 85% behind him and 100% against President Obama - this means things will normalize, and messaging will be developed to tear him down and prop up Romney.

IF the economy keeps its sluglike recovery and there are no terrorism issues, BO should win a clear, but not overwhelming win, and I agree a handful of house seats will swing back and sadly the senate will be lost, at best a 50/50 split.

emulatorloo

(44,115 posts)
6. Romney's Primary Strategy: Trash the other candidates. That is how he plans to win
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:00 PM
Apr 2012

Listen to any of his speeches. The lies he tells about Obama are abominable.

He is going to do whatever it takes to destroy Obama.

He has tons of money to spread those lies, + Rove and the Kochs have 100s of millions to Swift Boat Obama.

 

Hawkowl

(5,213 posts)
8. It's Romney's stand your ground strategy
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:43 PM
Apr 2012
"He has tons of money to spread those lies, + Rove and the Kochs have BILLIONS to Swift Boat Obama."


There I fixed it for you.


Romney's campaign strategy is simply to assassinate the character of Obama, while blaming the Black Man for all of this country's economic problems. I can see Romney carrying Utah and all of the south excluding maybe Virginia, and Florida. He'll lose but not by a landslide. Also, if the economy crashes before November (which is 50/50 at best), Romney could very well win with some election theft.
Nothing surprises me after Shrub stole the election from Kerry and Kerry did not even protest.
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
9. It never stops to astonish me how come so many people believe the B.S from
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:51 PM
Apr 2012

the GOP -- about half of our nation. In spite of the news media being 90%
Republican-owned, how is it possible that there are so many dumb people
among us?!

Response to Cal33 (Reply #9)

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. The only thing I worry about is Citizens United. If it wasn't for that, yes
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 06:56 PM
Apr 2012

President Obama should skate into another term, especially running against that clown.

But, then I think about what the perpetual lie machine did to John Kerry - and that was before
CU.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. How has Romney won these primaries? Money money money and saturation ads
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 07:07 PM
Apr 2012

He has nothing else going for him.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. You don't see HIS big picture.
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:03 PM
Apr 2012


This really isn't about running for President.

This is about getting the "Good Housekeeping Seal of American Normalcy" for the Mormon Church.

Once he is nominated then the Republican Party will have said, "Mormons are the same as Protestants".

Yes he is going to get creamed.

But from their point of view he was one person away from becoming President and will receive tens of millions of votes.

From their point of view they will move closer to full acceptance in American popular culture than ever before.

And that's what its all about.
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