2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBest thread in a long, long time at FreeRepublic
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2979461/postsMy dear rifle
I love it so
It ain't for shooting deer
Don't you know?
Let's be blunt
It's for shooting tyrants
For protecting liberty
You can kill me
But 'til then I'm free
Yeah, you can come and take it
If you dare
But let me warn you
I'm a well-armed bear
Signed,
An American
I can't wait for the sequel thread: My Dear AR-15
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Up against the wall, redneck mothers!
M is for the mudflaps on my pickup truck
O is for the oil in my hair
T is T-bird
H is for Haggard
E is for eggs and
R is for REDNECK!!
(tip of the hat to Jerry Jeff Walker)
FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I used to par-tay to that song, big time! Everyone would sing the "Up against the wall redneck mother" chorus at the top of our lungs. It was particularly special that we were in Oklahoma. Ah, memories!
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Calls to mind: "This is my rifle! Without me it is nothing! Without it I am nothing!"
Erose999
(5,624 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)That makes that "dear rifle" the oppressor. The NRA is the tyrant here, trying to push us into Civil War and/or more wars in their Bushmaster markets in poor countries abroad.
I'm very tired of adolescent pipedreams about what infantile fascists call "Liberty" being treated as though they are somekind of absolute truth for all of the rest of us, to which all MUST bow or else.
FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)I don't think I've ever read a more apt summation on the subject.
patrice
(47,992 posts)probably tend to think of it as 0 consequences and, yet, they are also known to say things about how, "Freedom isn't free", which IS true, but then they conceive of the price of freedom ONLY in terms of blood, preferably someone else's, which in some instances is also more or less true, but the difference between those instances in which that may be true and those instances when oppression is the more likely result of that blood is extremely important to the freedom of everyone.
All of that is very concerning in contexts in which authentic understanding of what constitutes rational thought is completely missing and people operate most of the time under the principle that just saying something makes it so (because they themselves have known little or nothing but corporate propaganda).
The price of freedom is responsibility, ongoing, rational, honest, diligent, work-wo/manly commitment to what happens ALL of the time, NOT just after the fact. After "the horse is out of the barn", when it's too late to figure out whether whoever is headed at you, armed to the teeth is the oppressor or not and by how much, let alone how one's own behaviors have contributed to oppressing one's self by limiting one's choices until they lead to that bloody moment, in which no choices are left for anyone.
This means that people should recognize that if you NEED a gun to protect your home from thieves or criminals, it's already too late, so you should accept your responsibilities for social and economic justice BEFORE you get to that moment, which will result not only in fewer bad people trying to take your stuff, but also an increased probability that if anyone does try to assault your castle, they are more likely people who HAVE chosen to do that and therefore deserve to be apprehended and brought to justice. That's another important difference, because it reduces the inertia of the cycles of injustice that involve people who WOULD choose otherwise (i.e. choose not to be thieving your property) if they had had more chances not to all along and separating THOSE sheep from the goats reduces the strength of the cycles that repeat, repeat, repeat, until it's too late and a bunch of people lie bleeding and dying for something that never had a chance of being authentic freedom in the first place.
None of that can happen when chaos reigns and no one can identify their functional choices (all along, throughout all of the processes) well enough to adapt their own trajectory themselves, as individuals, and violence creates chaos, so it is much more likely that the results of violence are only more privilege, not freedom.
FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)delightfully challenging, informative, and interesting conversations, to which I came as a '60s style Liberal with all of those kinds of experiences and which conversations nourished my understandings about life and created in me a respect for what Libertarians want to be, but fall short because of the sorts of things, including ourselves, that oppress all of us.
Thank you for your fine compliment, FleetwoodMac!
2theleft
(1,136 posts)Really. Amazing summary. Best post on this topic I've seen.
patrice
(47,992 posts)I have this crazy idea that if all of us try as best we can to be understood and to understand, that alone will make things better for lots of people. Even people who don't think they have anything to contribute will be surprised by the good things that can happen when people are real people to one another.
LukeFL
(594 posts)You should publish it. Everyone should read this. Create your own blog.
patrice
(47,992 posts)It would be a place where I could return again and again to work on articles I've read in detail.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)dang day?
They better watch themselves, what they say and how they say it.
Morans!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)tyrants are liberals, Democrats and people of color.
azalia
(7 posts)I keep hearing this from people around me who are against gun control.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)on account of the fact that more people die from accidental shooting than from actually defending themselves, they brainstormed for a new angle and came up with the Stalinesque/motherland crap.
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)Sitting at my drone programming station
Inputting info for location on fools who
Declared war on our nation
It ain't just for disrupting Afghan weddings, don't you know?
Let's be blunt
It's for smoking beer guts with assault rifles
Their M4 arsenals and reams of .223s are mere trifle
They should have thought before pulling these stunts
Watering the tree of liberty will get you blasted by US grunts
Yeah, you think you're a well-armed bear
But, let's see how well you'll fare
And how well you sass
When you see the fuckin' 82 Airborne
Comin' for your ass.
Hey, wonder if I can put it to rap with my war face.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)A future classic that line is...
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:57 PM - Edit history (1)
That site is hilarious.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)'Cause when it comes to poetry, you're an inept fuck.
FleetwoodMac
(351 posts)reading that.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)Special Prosciuto
(731 posts)OswegoAtheist
(609 posts)I figured they'd appreciate it immensely
Oswego "If you end up on the jury when that thread is alerted, think kindly of me" Atheist
samsingh
(17,595 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)with a trigger mechanism that can be worked with a small, flacid penis. I call it the schmuck gun.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)These people are idiots.
Reminds me of a line from a Stephen King novel. "Politics and poetry rarely go together, propaganda and poetry never do."
Response to FleetwoodMac (Original post)
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quaker bill
(8,224 posts)Freedom is a state of life and mind. I would not be more free if I possessed a refrigerator, an arc welder, a boat, a guitar, or a rifle. Possessing things does not create freedom.
I would be much more free with universal healthcare as then I could really explore my business rather than sticking to the day job for the insurance.
Some of my neighbors have substantial flag displays and I imagine own weapons. But I suspect are doing the same sort of day job, and are sending their kids to the same schools, making the house and car payments.... They think they are more free because they have purchased more of the symbols. Freedom is not a possession, you literally can't own it, you can only live it.
DFW
(54,342 posts)Around 1970, a friend and I composed and performed the gun lover's country ballad.
I forget how most of most of it went, but the first verse went this:
Sleep tight my darlin' Marlin
You're so long and slim and sleek
When I jerked off your trigger last Sunday
I had an orgasm for a week.