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NPolitics1979

(613 posts)
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:30 PM Jan 2013

2014 AK US Senate Race,

any chance Mama Grizzley runs for the US Senate against Begich-D in 2014, now that she no longer works at Fox News Channel and Conservatives prefer Ryan and/or Santorum or Rubio or Rand over her? Or Does she run against Murkowski in 2016 in the GOP primary?. Palin-R became Governor in 2006 when she unseated Papa Murkowski in the primary.

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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
1. I doubt she would like the traveling back and forth.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:37 PM
Jan 2013

Besides she likes making money now. It is all about the money to her.

Cha

(296,888 posts)
2. Are you kidding? that would take work.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jan 2013

She also quit the governorship in 2009 because of the rat's nest she created.

polynomial

(750 posts)
3. Old, newly discovered files
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jan 2013

Something that puzzles me in American politics is the much suppressed histories and relations that slowly get to the surface of the mainstream media which is supposed to educate America.

Currently, America in the twenty four hour news cycle that is punk junk, a two parties system that is the Corruption of Champions to administer outright lying.

From my view, and you must know I do not have any axe to grind with any particular politician, for me “it is to only to know the truth, that is as the goal”. Ladies and Gentlemen of America this is not just ugly it is a place in God’s grace that is worse than the seventh level of hell.

Researching the Internet these past days proves wild corruption since WWII.
This has got to be the time of some of the most criminal war profiteering political politician connections many Americans can ever read after the declassification of our national archives.

As one of the facts point out George W. Bush deleted some script in some treaties America developed. The script essentially avoided his family from any war crimes. Besides, Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott Bush Built the family fortune in war profiteering, worse on the backs of concentration camp Jews. America will never have a Golden Age of prosperity until this history is completely vented.

The article

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

The story is true, and brings out criminal charges that show how the Bush family made their fortune. Here the kicker is this old stuff 2004 stuff, should have been plastered all over the media, however during this time the Republicans somehow talked about impeachment in how Clinton got blown. So sex is better, naturally, but this history condemns the Bush family pointing out how in the world anyone can ever vote for a Bush in American politics. They should be in the GITMO they started.

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

“You who” did you get that? Highly and likely most of the senior members of Congress, and the Senate know very well the details of this magnificent chunk of corruption. Yet remain silent bought off in complicity.

Earth495

(15 posts)
4. I think Senator Begich's seat is safer than people assume.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

Yes, it will be a big target for the GOP, and yes, we will be sweating it, but I am cautiously optimistic. States with low populations tend to keep sending the same people to congress so they build up seniority. This is important when your state has so few votes. In addition, compare to how support for Democrats has increased on the presidential level between 2004 and 2012 (ignore 2008 due to Palin being on the ticket.)

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
5. Hmm...I don't know about that.
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:02 PM
Jan 2013

Alaska is an extremely conservative state and in this age of tea party polarization, I don't believe any Democratic incumbent is safe in a state that is as red as Alaska. It took everything we had to keep Jon Tester (MT) and Claire McCaskill (MO) in the Senate (and the latter won because her opponent couldn't keep his ignorant mouth closed). Remember, Begich voted to pass Obamacare in Dec. 2009, and Rethugs will say that he "cast the 60th and thus deciding vote for socialized health care...blah-blah-blah..."

NPolitics1979

(613 posts)
8. Tester(MT) and Begich(AK)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:21 AM
Jan 2013

Both got into the US Senate by unseating corrupt senior Republican incumbents.
Tester's Republican challenger in 2012 was the 12 year US Congressman. Not only did Tester-D win, Democrats held onto the Governorship.
Begich's Republican challenger in 2014 are either the current LT Governor or the failed tea Party senate candidate.
Before the Stevens/Murkowski era
Democrats won US Senate Races in AK. Gruening(1958-1968),Bartlett(1958-1968) and Gravel(1968-1980).
Barlett died in 1968 and was succeeded by Stevens-R who served in the US Senate until his defeat in 2008. Gravel lost in the Democratic primary to Gruening's grandson, who lost in the general election to Frank Murkowski-R. Murkowski-R served in the US Senate until he became Governor in 2002. His daughter succeeded him.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
14. You might want to rethink that.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:25 AM
Feb 2013

According to a recent Gallup poll, Alaska is the most moderate state in the union, which makes sense since the vast majority of our electorate is nonpartisan. The only way the Republicans hold power here is through corruption, thanks to Big Oil.

 

Tagish_Charlie

(85 posts)
6. The Wasilla Windbag isn't thought of too highly
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:00 PM
Jan 2013

since she quit as guv and left AK twisting in the breeze. The most likely teabagger to run against Begich is that shit stain Joe Miller, who Murkowski beat with a write in campaign. And, he was SnowSnookie's boy and got trounced. But AK is an odd place and totally unpredictable.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
7. Sarah Palin won't run for an office that would take work
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:43 AM
Jan 2013

She may be out of a job at Fox News, but she likes to make as much $ as possible by doing as little work as she can. Levi Johnston said this about her once, and I agree with him on that.

Palin played the media and her Tea Party supporters like a fiddle for 2 years by hinting that she would run for President, and then she didn't even have the guts to enter the Republican primaries.

And I agree with what was said above: Palin doesn't even have good approval ratings in Alaska anymore - articles I've read show that many Alaskans feel she has embarrassed their state too many times.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)
9. She will not run. No way. Here's why, IMO: Palin, Newt, and even Herman Caine do not want to
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:37 PM
Jan 2013

run for house or senate they want to run for Pres or VP where they have POWER. A senate or house
position doesn't give them that.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. None of those folks will ever be in position to be President or VP again
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:01 PM
Feb 2013

Palin has no credibility anymore, even with Republicans. Same goes for Herman Cain.

And Newt is too old and won't run again. Not to mention being a joke and a moral values hypocrite.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. That poll also shows Begich is leading Palin!
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:48 PM
Feb 2013

That proves what some of us said above - Palin is finished politically even in her own state!

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
16. Interesting that that poll shows Parnell ahead of Mark if Parnell decides to run.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 01:21 AM
Feb 2013

That's probably because everyone wants to get him as far away from Alaska as possible and keep him from a second four-year term. Parnell has been a disaster as governor...he makes me almost miss Sarah. I hate to think where we'll be as a state if we have to suffer through 10 years of him as governor.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
13. Not a chance.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:21 AM
Feb 2013

She would never make it past the primary, in which it appears that there will be at least four or five contenders, and besides we don't even see her around here anymore. I don't even know if she still resides here. She's been irrelevant in Alaska since she left the governorship.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
15. This is a pretty good article about the upcoming Senate race.
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:40 AM
Feb 2013
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/01/31/joe_miller_re-emerges_good_news_for_alaska_dems_116859.html


With a second run for the U.S. Senate likely on his horizon, Joe Miller would appear to be back.

In Alaska, however, the Tea Party stalwart never left.

Just a few months after his 2010 general election loss to Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski -- who was on the ballot as a write-in candidate following her primary loss to Miller -- the defeated GOP nominee signaled his intention to remain an active political player in the state by forming a PAC, dubbed Restoring Liberty Alaska.

<snip>

“It’ll be the biggest race probably in Alaska history,” Wenstrup said of the Senate bout next year. “We expect it to be similar to the race Sen. [Jon] Tester ran in Montana in 2012, with lots of outside money coming in and lots of negative attacks from these outside PACs targeting Sen. Begich. At the same time, we expect Sen. Begich to have a lot of support in the state.”

Though Miller has not been deferential to party machinery, a key component to his Senate hopes could ultimately depend on the outcome of an ongoing struggle for control of the state Republican Party. Incoming GOP Chairman Russ Millette -- a Miller ally -- is slated to take office on Friday but has faced continuing challenges from the previous regime because of alleged rules infractions.

That dispute may be settled as early as this week.




The dispute has been settled -- Tea Party dude is out as of last night.



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