2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton in Poll Tops Christie Who Beats Biden, Cuomo Lags
By Jonathan D. Salant - Mar 7, 2013
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leads among prospective 2016 presidential candidates in a poll out today that shows the Democrat besting New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and two other Republicans.
Christie holds the strongest position among his partys potential White House hopefuls. Hes ahead when pitted against two other Democrats mentioned as White House contenders, Vice President Joe Biden and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, according to the survey of U.S. voters by Hamden, Connecticut- based Quinnipiac University.
Clinton would start a 2016 presidential campaign with enormous advantages, said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac polling institute. She obviously is by far the best known, and her more than 20 years in the public spotlight allows her to create a very favorable impression on the American people. But it is worth noting that she had very good poll numbers in 2006 looking toward the 2008 election, before she faced a relative unknown in Barack Obama.
Clinton, then a U.S. senator from New York and a former first lady, lost the 2008 Democratic nomination to Obama, who was elected president and named her secretary of state.
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Wilms
(26,795 posts)Any real Democrats running??
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)...and don't you let anyone forget it!
antigop
(12,778 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... you can hear the announcements at full cry.
A lot of us care deeply enough to start organizing for Hillary NOW. It's never too early. Did you fail to notice the advantage President Obama gained by defining his opponent so early in the contest?
Hillary is our Heir Apparent. If she receives any Democrat opposition at all - if she's primaried - I trust it will be short and sweet, only for show.
I'm an old lady, and this world won't be rid of me until Hillary's in the WH again, this time in the Oval Office where she belongs. I refuse to leave until I see it for myself. Then somehow, strangely, I'll feel my life's complete.
antigop
(12,778 posts)IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... some new schtick. Your yawning is .... "yawwwwn" ... contagious.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)... the more he will lag.
That said... maybe it is time for some new talent to emerge. I'm a little tired of the 1990's and the 2000s being run and re-run by both parties.
And I don't mean new "faces". Nor old wine in new and improved bottles.
But new ideas and new energy. And new idea #1 would be: confronting ever expanding wealth and income disparity head on.
No more Geitners, Summerses, Mary Jo Whites, and Arne Duncans. For gods' sake, give it a rest. Let's cut the bullshit and lock the revolving door. Either we're going to confront these issues, or we are not.
From that vantage point, Sen. Warren's looking pretty good right about now.( OK, it's early for her; let's see where she goes.)
And/or... if he's up to it... Senator Sanders.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)... would be good on anyone's ticket. Except with Sanders only because they're almost twins.
Did someone say twins?
Let's hear it for those Chavez guys from Texas!
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Considering they bothered polling Ryan and Rubio and not him?
Secondly, regardless about how a lot of people here feel about Andrew Cuomo, he's the very popular governor of New York and would not lose a presidential election to a weasel from Wisconsin who couldn't even win his home town as a VP candidate. This poll is based on name recognition and nothing more.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts).... would've beaten anyone in '08 EXCEPT Barack Obama. And he won't be running in '16. The only question is who will be her VP? Elisabeth Warren would be qualified and preferable, but I don't imagine an all-female ticket would stand a chance. So I vote for one of the Chavez brothers from Texas. I love both those guys to pieces.
(Yes, Virginia, I have a certain sentimentality towards their surname.)
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)And I can guarantee you that neither one of them will be on the ticket in 2016. They have nowhere close to the amount of experience needed to be VP.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)I've been running on fumes these past two weeks, the late departed in Venezuela has occupied so much of my attention, and I misspoke. You're very kind to note my mistake, and I hope you never need a similar favor. Honestly, I mean that. If you've ever known anyone with half a dozen kids, you know the ease with which names are interchanged. "Hank, we have to leave in 5 minutes - get your dress on! No, Hank, I mean Jennie - take those football cleats off right now, Jennie, if you know what's good for you!"
That confessed, your declaration that the CASTRO! brothers have 'nowhere close to the amount of experience needed to be VP' might miss the mark by a hair. When my brain fog lifts, I hear voices from the past tolling that same bell for a 'relatively inexperienced' community organizer from Chicago who leapfrogged over a VP stint and landed plop in the White House.
So if you can keep my head from falling forward in the soup, I still win the point.
Next!
LATER, BACK ON THE RANCH... BTW, I do love Andrew Cuomo, but I absolutely adored his father Marion - no, I mean Mario!
I double checked again; this time I did type 'Castro'. Gotta keep one jump ahead of the butterfly net people.