2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't know what is going on, but I do know this....
So help me God, if the Democrats give one more inch on *anything, it will be a bloodbath in 14. I have said it before here, and I will say it again. The mood of the country is exactly that, and if the powers that be can't figure that out, God help us. We have the power, right now, at this moment, to get our party back to it's roots and put a stake in the heart of the Republicans for a couple more presidential election cycles, as well as set this country back on it's proper and historic course. I don't know what kind of back-room deals are being played right now, but I, for one, am over it...and there are millions like me. Just look at Ed's polls, night after night. I guess we have to take a few more to the woodshed, it looks like, and 14 is the name of the game. If you feel like I do, you need to be burning up the phone lines to your delegations and the White House. If you are at all able, get active with your local party. If you are able, for God sake RUN FOR OFFICE. NOW. This is the time, and it appears they still don't get it. If you can't run, volunteer. Make calls. Stay engaged. Communicate with your neighbors. Continue voter outreach and registration unabated. If you think this last cycle was horrendous, next time will be harder, as it won't be a presidential election. We have to motivate everyone to get out again, just one more time, en masse. This is the world we live in now. It is our reality.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)My phone call is to say "I support 100% of anything President Obama does".
time to listen to the 90% of the democratic party that is the core President Obama voters, and backs him.
JFK said "Ask NOT what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can do for your country".
Sometimes it takes a little sacrifice to move forward.
And it's NO SACRIFICE to do the correct thing and 100% back President Obama.
no retreat/no surrender on my 100% support for President Obama.
President Obama's agenda FOREVER.
jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)Baa-baa, black sheep, have you any bull?
For serious, nobody deserves unquestioned support. You give it, you'll get what you deserve.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)How's that protest from 1968, 1972, 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, 2010 doing?
How did that protest vote in Wisconsin to stay at home do for Russ Feingold?
Why is Paul Ryan even in office all these years?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Pretty damn good. We ended a fucking war. Mind you they killed Bobby or things might have turned out vastly different. But yeah, blame the victim.
By the by, Mr DLC, how'd that DOMA or DADT work out for ya?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Bobby never should have run, and the nation should have begged LBJ to run
without Nixon's sabatoge, the war would have ended in 1967 or 1968 anyhow
(see Robert Parry's article yesterday posted on this board)
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)LBJ was forever claiming that he was going to bring the war to a conclusion. It isn't even clear he'd been in those talks if it wasn't for the opposition to the war, and the way he was conducting it.
And Bobby would have won if the right wing hadn't assassinated him.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Had Bobby not been killed, he MIGHT have been the nominee, though, truth be told,
HHH most likely would have been.
1968 primaries were not like today, and the smoked filled room of yore was in place, and the HHH forces most likely would have prevailed.
As the party was so deeply divided.
Tossing the single most liberal democratic president ever was a major mistake.
It was LBJ that actually did all he did. Others dreamed, but LBJ made it his #1 priority to sign the voting right/civil rights acts.
No one knows if JFK would have used his all, knowing Bobby still had to run later, it might have waited.
And Bobby could have run in 1972 and 1976, then Teddy in 1980 and 1984.
but we shall never know.
However, John Schlossberg can run in 2032, 2036 and help with the 50 straight years of Democratic Presidents (After Barack, Hillary, Michelle have their 2 terms).
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)And the Kennedy's knew well about smoke filled rooms, which is how a Catholic got nominated in the first place.
LBJ would have been dead before his new term was up.
But hey, I should get really excited about four more DLC presidents moving us ever more to the right. What I need is ANOTHER president explaining how a few short years ago he'd be considered a moderate republican.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I voted for Jerry Brown, but the democratic party smeared him and Jesse Jackson.
And Jesse should have been Clinton's VP.
But because of Perot, Clinton got less than 50% and all the republicans said he was not a legit president, forcing him to be more moderate than he wanted
And where was everyone when Hillary put in the health plan?
Ridiculous to blame Bill.
Had that passed, it would have led to a much better system by now.
Thankfully we have President Obama's health plan, I just found out this week my cost
will drop 50% for the May-May2014 period, because now I can switch from the company I have and instantly be accepted in another. Something that was not possible in prior years.
So instead of nearly $3000 a month, it is dropping to a bit less than $1500.
Thank you President Obama. That saves me $18,000 a year in the next 12 months.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Mine is going up. Alot of people's are going up. Truth is, the White House predicts a nominal rate of growth of 6 - 7 % per year for the foreseeable future. And this doesn't take into account all the people that will now have to pay for health insurance, that they won't be able to afford to use, or pay an extra tax, and still not get health CARE.
No one but Cllinton forced himself to be more "moderate" than he was. He RAN on being more moderate. He, and the DLC invented the whole "triangulation" strategy. HE was responsible for his failures, especially with respect to health care. But not to worry, Obama came along and passed a health care plan not all that unlike (by his own description) the opposition plan put forward by the GOP at the time that Clinton was trying to get something through. Fortunately for the GOP they didn't have to actually vote for it this time.
xiamiam
(4,906 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
mother earth
(6,002 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I'll do what I can, even in Oklahoma
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)And every two, four, and six years respectively, in a never ending quest to make their lives better, the American people get a chance to elect or reelect a bunch of blue or red corporately owned venal sock puppets, and thus prove that...
Not only do they not understand the character of corruption that has taken over their Government, but just how incorrigibly inept they really are when it comes choosing their leaders, and deciding their future.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)throwing the entire Democratic party under the bus.