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dsc

(52,152 posts)
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:20 PM Mar 2013

Should our party get rid of caucuses?

Our party is squarely against laws requiring photo ids to vote on the grounds that it makes it hard for voters to vote. We support things like early voting to make it easier to vote. Caucuses make it much harder to vote. No absentee voting. No early voting. The process takes hours. Yet several states use this method to select our Presidential nominee. Unlike most issues related to 2016, this is the right time to discuss this issue. These types of changes need to be made before candidates announce so the rules can be made without worrying about which candidate will be helped and which candidate won't be helped.

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Should our party get rid of caucuses? (Original Post) dsc Mar 2013 OP
I think we should go to primary's in all states. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #1
I tend to agree dsc Mar 2013 #3
They introduced caucuses in Nevada in enlightenment Mar 2013 #2
The grass is always greener... brooklynite Mar 2013 #7
and would it have been such a hoot for you if you were in the military in Afghanistan? dsc Mar 2013 #11
Yes, I imagine it is more fun if enlightenment Mar 2013 #12
the problem is one of expense Capn Sunshine Mar 2013 #4
well the state should pay for it dsc Mar 2013 #6
I think that's a decision for each party in each state/county to make. SharonAnn Mar 2013 #5
+1 davidpdx Mar 2013 #15
No and neither should they get rid of whistler162 Mar 2013 #8
Oh, Lawd! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #9
about what dsc Mar 2013 #10
I assume you're referring to 2008? Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #14
I have had consistent problems with caucuses dsc Mar 2013 #17
The Washington caucuses are a joke. I went once or twice. pnwmom Mar 2013 #13
Have you participated in a caucus? 4dsc Mar 2013 #16
I observed the Iowa caucuses when I was in college in 88 dsc Mar 2013 #18

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
2. They introduced caucuses in Nevada in
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:28 PM
Mar 2013

2008 primary season. I hated the process and by the time it was finished I wanted to vaporize everyone in the building - and I'm not a violent person.

brooklynite

(94,363 posts)
7. The grass is always greener...
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 07:41 PM
Mar 2013

My wife and I ran a Caucus outside Las Vegas for Hillary Clinton. We thought it was a hoot.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
11. and would it have been such a hoot for you if you were in the military in Afghanistan?
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:29 PM
Mar 2013

Or if you were too ill to travel for some reason?

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
12. Yes, I imagine it is more fun if
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:50 PM
Mar 2013

you're running it - but as a "guest" I found it to be the most objectionable voting process I have ever experienced. I won't do it again - and if that means no longer voting in primaries, so be it.

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
4. the problem is one of expense
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:39 PM
Mar 2013

in the caucus process, the Party itself and the volunteers running it assume the financial burden. In the other, the State pays for another election.



dsc

(52,152 posts)
6. well the state should pay for it
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:42 PM
Mar 2013

it is a function of the state to help choose the leaders. Now I do realize that makes for less flexibility as to dates but thems the breaks.

SharonAnn

(13,771 posts)
5. I think that's a decision for each party in each state/county to make.
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 06:40 PM
Mar 2013

I don't think it's something that should be forced.

I prefer having primaries and think that's a better way, but the political parties decide how they're going to do things. Not the general public.

So, you'll have to work within the party to get it changed.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. +1
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:45 AM
Mar 2013

I'm not wiling to say one or the other is better. My state has a primary.

For those overseas (even military) they can opt to vote in the Democrats Abroad primary which does give delegates to candidates. They just can't vote in both DA and their state.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
10. about what
Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:28 PM
Mar 2013

the fact is I think more people voting is better than fewer. The fact is my preferred candidate in 16 is Martin O'Malley who I have no idea if he will run, if he did run which he would do better in. I think, regardless of who runs primaries are preferrable to caucuses. I think it is nothing short of scandalous that people who serve us over seas who are from Iowa have no say, none as to who are nominee will be. IF that makes me obsessive then so be it.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. I assume you're referring to 2008?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 04:32 AM
Mar 2013

I don't recall the OP being obsessed, but a number of DUers were angry with the caucus system because they helped Obama quite a bit. Obama supporters were much more passionate and waited around to make their voices heard in the caucus. This didn't sit well with many Hillary supporters who felt she was entitled to the Presidency.

There was a lot of arguing about the caucuses in 2008.

Ahhh....memories.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
17. I have had consistent problems with caucuses
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 01:57 PM
Mar 2013

the fact is caucuses were likely the only prayer my original candidate in 08 had (I was originally a Richardson supporter) but I still think it is a major problem that our nomination process has a large role for contests which discriminate against among other people active military.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
13. The Washington caucuses are a joke. I went once or twice.
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:01 AM
Mar 2013

They are deliberately screening out everyone who doesn't have the 3 or 4 hours to spend debating on party platforms, etc.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
16. Have you participated in a caucus?
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 07:20 AM
Mar 2013

Something tells me you have participated in a caucus or you wouldn't be making this claim.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
18. I observed the Iowa caucuses when I was in college in 88
Thu Mar 28, 2013, 02:14 PM
Mar 2013

and there are some good things about them but I think the bad outweighs the good. The inability to vote absentee is a humungous problem. It keeps out active duty military serving out of state, it keeps out the ill, it keeps out those who work odd hours.

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