2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumChristy vetos early voting bill for NJ
That's all this fucker does is veto bills http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/christie_vetoes_early_voting_b.html#incart_flyout_politics
JustAnotherGen
(31,774 posts)But a bunch of folks at DU think he is just a peach of a guy. You get a rec!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)However, NJ is blue, and they could override the veto as they have the votes to do so.
JustAnotherGen
(31,774 posts)I know. But we can't take a defeatist attitude and assume it is inconceiveable that Buono can win. I encourage all New Jerseyans at DU to volunteer for her campaign and most important - canvass in minority neighborhoods.
We must get folks fired up to vote like they are voting for Obama.
We can't win Hunterdon County - but Newark is not Flemington. Fired up - we win,
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Whitman almost beat a Bradley who thought he was so invincible that he almost didn't bother.
There is early voting in a sense that anyone without any reason can absentee vote by mail.
I don't know the legalities but I know our library keeps the papers for anyone to pick up right out in the open
A mailed in ballot means the vote is on the books.(but does require a few steps).
Christie could be beaten if his voters stay home figuring he is going to win.
JustAnotherGen
(31,774 posts)Patterns due to Climate Change - what if yet again - we have a late October disaster?
I know you are a huge devotee of Clinton - but everyone said she would win in 2008 - and she didnt. Then everyone said McCain would win - people would "not vote for a black President".
And Christie IS going to fight. The ads have already started.
A Game - or no game. I'm not a defeatist that rolls over and plays dead - so 75% is just a number.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)we need to get the vote out.
Rep. Freylinghausen's time has come and gone(and what a big district he lives in, and what a shape of it, zigzagging everywhere.)
Though I think 2016 is more likely to oust him if Hillary is on the ballot.
Just yesterday a study of the voters showed blacks outnumbered whites in 2012 for the first time in % that voted. That is needed in off year elections in all states, and especially a state like NJ.
Same with all democratic voters.
It starts with straight democratic voters though
100% top to bottom, bottom to top straight democratic line
That is what all democratic party GOTV leaders need to stress, and democratic voters need to do.
Straight 100% democratic line
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)One New Jersey has run 3 so far (I think)
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Florio was polling ahead in all polls before that election.NJ is notorious for bad polling.
Cosmocat
(14,557 posts)Whatever extent politics normally come down to D vs R, he is an absolute 100 percent fit for the general NJ attitude and personality.
Bold, direct, unabashed ...
He has a lot of appeal to a lot of people in the state regardless of his policy tendencies because he is who NJ people are.
Nationally, it will be different.
He can go all Snooky on people at the shore and NJ people will get all warm and fuzzy, but his short fuse won't work for him as well outside the NJ border.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)And THAT really pissed the baggers off!
Now he's trying to get back in the good graces of his nasty Republican colleagues because I think he's going to try to run for Pres. in 2016.
This veto and his lap band procedure indicate that he's positioning himself for a run.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and you don't even need an excuse.
So in actuality, anyone can and does vote early already
JustAnotherGen
(31,774 posts)Everyone should be mailed a ballot that is registered in case we have snow on Halloween(2011) or another Sandy (2012)?
See post up thread. You couldn't just run down to the library and grab one in 2012 in many towns in horse country. Somerville was not passable and had no power. The libraries were not own here. The election happened the week after Sandy.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)does requesting one mean one has to send that in and not vote?
Want to make sure before saying a definite here
Can you request, not send it in and still go to polls if you don't?
Remember in Sandy, how long it took to count all the 2012 votes.
and yes, NJ and NY both can now pencil in two storms in both Sept. and Oct like the last 2 years.
(and remember, on 9-11-2001, that was an election day and voting already had started that morning and the election was postponed, and it was a mess).Rudy actually tried to cancel the elections that year.
JustAnotherGen
(31,774 posts)Because there is no way outside 'forces' (Koch Brothers / Adelson / TEApublicans) would 'allow' us to do this:
They are the money guys behind all of this legislation to keep minorities from voting in this country.
OR - We could have early voting - even for minorities and folks in poor communities in NJ.
I really do not see WHY we can't have early voting. The cost really isn't that big of a deal for a state as wealthy as New Jersey. And after Christie has treated teachers, first responders, State Union members like mangy rabid dogs -
We've got the money to make sure that every one who wants to cast a vote can. I mean - after what he's done and all . . .
okaawhatever
(9,457 posts)dems. His best chances for winning in 16 rest on people not finding out what his true agenda would be. He's gop no doubt about it. One of the only reasons people don't know what he would do given the opportunity is because of the make up of the state legislature.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
mtasselin
(666 posts)To all of the people of New Jersey, wake up this guy is a piece of shit. He has done what is best for Christy and that is all if he was able to help some working people on the way so be it. Stopping people from voting early is just another sign on how big of a asshole he really is.
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)its the exact opposite of serving the people.trying to minimize their access to vote.
antidemocratic.
was there some noxious part of this proposal to justify a veto?
CTyankee
(63,881 posts)Does anybody here know his rationale?
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)CTyankee
(63,881 posts)vetoing a measure that helps people exercise their basic right to vote just doesn't make sense politically...it's irrational...
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)CTyankee
(63,881 posts)tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)CTyankee
(63,881 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)and corporate give-aways!!