2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary in the (White) House
We elected a black man. Are we ready to elect a woman?
BY ANNA MARCH
I DREAM of Iowa.
Hillary Clinton has just made her first public appearances since resigning as Secretary of State, and I am enthusiastic about her presumed candidacy; its making me dream of Iowa. I long to go there to work on electing the first woman president.
I watched Barack Obama there last November at the final stop of his final campaign, just before midnight on the chilly evening before election day in Des Moines, the crowd of 20,000 strong doing call and response along with our president. Fired up! Ready to go!
This is not post-racial America, despite what some would try and have us believe. This is still racist that-nigger-messed-up-the-country America and I am crying from true joy to think that 20,000 mostly white folks are out there in Iowa in Iowa! for our president. For Barack Obama. For a black man. A black man! (I dont believe that Iowans are any more likely to be racist than the rest of us, but the heartland of America is not the first place that jumps to mind when I think of racial progress.)
I am happy and proud that we re-elected Obama, a great president, and I am happy and proud that we re-elected a black man. Knowing something in the abstract that a black man can be president isnt the same thing as knowing it in reality, watching it manifest. No one needs it spelled out to them what a tremendous thing this is. That now, when black kids look in the mirror, they can see themselves as president. That now, when any of us think president, we dont just think of all those white men, we think about Barack Obama alongside Washington, Jefferson, the Roosevelts, Kennedy, and all the other whites, great and mediocre. We understand that it is a good thing to add president to the list of associations we have with black men along with the stereotyped associations like athlete, entertainer, and criminal. We inherently understand that it is a good thing for our country, for we the people, to dismantle and reconstruct our notions of power and leadership by electing a black man to be our president and the leader of the free world.
full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/11/hillary_in_the_white_house_partner/
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)DinahMoeHum
(21,737 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)antigop
(12,778 posts)The author needs to find another woman to support.
Selling out the American worker as Hillary did is harmful to a "progressive agenda".
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)You don't sound all that 'antigop' to me.
antigop
(12,778 posts)Hillary Clinton: So you are talking about the outsourcing of US jobs to India. We know it's been going on for many years now and it's part of our economic relationship with India and I think there are advantages with it that have certainly benefitted many parts of our country and there are disadvantages that go to the need to improve the job fields of our own people and create a better economic environment so it's like anything like the pluses and minuses.
The "advantages" of outsourcing go to the executives and shareholders, NOT the working stiffs.
She sold out the tech community as a US senator:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/07/AR2007090702780.html
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"The India issue is still something people are concerned about. Her financial relationships, her quotes -- they have both gotten attention," said Thea M. Lee, policy director for the AFL-CIO.
Facing a cool reception, Clinton and her advisers have used closed-door meetings with labor leaders in recent months to explain her past ties to Indian companies, donors and policies. Aides have highlighted her efforts to retrain displaced workers and to end offshore tax breaks that reward companies that outsource jobs.
But the Clinton camp has been pressed by labor leaders on her support for expanding temporary U.S. work visas that often go to Indians who get jobs in the United States, and it has been queried about the help she gave a major Indian company to gain a foothold in New York state. That company now outsources most of its work to India.
"They're obviously defensive about it," observed Lee, who has taken part in such meetings.
Still waiting for an explanation of what engineers and IT workers are supposed to train for after their jobs get shipped offshore.
Anyone paying attention will realize she is NOT a friend to the American worker.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Pres. Biden and VP Clinton, Pres Clinton and VP Obama, Pres Warren and VP Mrs Weiner,
We Dems. are so lucky, we have hundreds of very good and beloved politicans who are leadership material.
Unlike republicans who don't have anyone who isn't crooked or a quitter or hated.
IrishAyes
(6,151 posts)Just suppose that if President Obama after a double term then somehow wound up as VP and THAT president had to be replaced, could VP Obama then become president again? I freely admit to not having ever thought about such a thing.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)VP Obama would help win the election and they can drag it out in the courts for 10 years so the terms would be over before it mattered.
Todays horror is Boehner is 3rd inline for president and his own fellow republicans send emails they pray the president and his family dies. Someone should be arrested at the least removed from office for that treason.
the way I keep my finger poked in the teabagger eye, it might end up a question of who got shot first, VP Obama or me.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)No Vested Interest
(5,156 posts)eligible to be president, under the Amendment that limited the Presidency to 2 terms.
Therefore, no President who has served two terms would be eligible to serve as VP - Bill Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)or run Mrs. Obama and President Obama can assist