POLL: Where is Mitt Romney in terms of political ideology?

[ellisonz]

21 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Severely Conservative
	2 (10%)
	Conservative
	0 (0%)
	Moderate
	0 (0%)
	Lukewarm
	0 (0%)
	Severely Liberal
	0 (0%)
	Confused
	0 (0%)
	Chameleon
	16 (76%)
	Chimpanzee
	0 (0%)
	Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle
	3 (14%)
	Kitteh
	0 (0%)
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[elleng]

1. NO WHERE, MAN!

[ZM90]

2. Kitteh!

Because that's always the correct answer! :p

Cats > Romney

Cats Against Romney

[Kennah]

3. Severe Douchebag wasn't on the list

[WCGreen]

7. I see him more as an empty spent Douchebag....

[Kurovski]

8. Conservative/D-bag, wherein lies the distinction these days?

Eisenhower would get reamed with a curling iron by Bill O'Reilly today if he sauntered onto his festival of moron-fawning on FOX.

[Kennah]

21. Channeling BO to the late 1950s ...

... this Eisenhower guy is spending money like a drunken soldier. Money for defense being spent on roads in a federal takeover of transportation in this country. He calls it the interstate highway system. Sounds communist to me. And has anyone really looked at his war record? I mean he was a General type guy. Never saw combat. Just sat in an office.

[Kurovski]

22. Evil anti-corporatist.

Whining about privatizing military operations. Forcing his job-killing and paranoid policies on the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

[Tx4obama]

4. 8 Reasons Why Mitt Romney Is More Right Wing Than George W. Bush

8 Reasons Why Mitt Romney Is More Right Wing Than George W. Bush

During the primary season, Mitt Romney was frequently derided by his Republican opponents as a “Massachusetts Moderate.” This isn’t true.

Last week, a spokesperson for the Republican National Committee suggested the policies advanced this year by Mitt Romney and the Republicans would be like the “policies of the Bush administration…just updated.”

A close review of Romney’s positions shows that Romney has “updated” George W. Bush’s positions by moving substantially to the right in a number of key areas. As detailed below, compared to this year’s presumptive Republican nominee, Bush looks moderate: <SNIP>

<SNIP>

Full article with the LIST of reasons listed here: http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/24/470541/mitt-romney-versus-george-bush/

[Kurovski]

5. Mittsy's gonna do the job he's hired for, he'll fire ALL your asses if he has to.

Chameleon.

Or whore, as I see it.

[Kurovski]

6. Hmmm. I can see him ripping an arm off and beating someone to death with it sooo...

maybe chimpanzee?

[ellisonz]

9. That was my vote.

He flings a lot of poop and makes "laughing" noises while doing it.

[Kurovski]

10. He also mirrors and mimics whatever is in front of him.

You are way more brilliant than I thought, ellisonz. Most astute.

[ellisonz]

20. True that

It's from all of the root beer I'm swilling - sugar high!

[angrychair]

11. I choose what I could

because "self-serving jerk" wasn't an a choice.

[DFW]

12. Before I answer that question

You have to tell me where Romney is and whose cameras are on him . THEN I can tell
you where he stands ideologically--for the next minute anyway.

Romney's political stances have a very short shelf life.

[customerserviceguy]

13. Yay, we have polling again!

I was really missing it. And when did that spell check button appear?

[KurtNYC]

14. How about 'Entrepreneur of Cash and Carry Government'

Say anything to get elected. Pass any law that puts money in your pocket.

[Arkana]

15. Whatever gets him the most votes.

That's his ideology.

[WI_DEM]

16. I voted chameleon--whatever will help him at the time.

[center rising]

17. I really don't think Romney knows where the hell he is.

[Douglas Carpenter]

18. If classic Communism was a dominant ideology and the movement would give him the career he wanted he

would be a devoted Communist and believe in it with all of his heart. If classic Fascism was a dominant ideology and would give him the career he wanted he would be a devoted Fascist and believe in it with all of his heart. If New Deal liberalism was a dominant ideology and would give him the career he wanted he would be a devoted New Deal liberal and believe in it with all of his heart.

[KamaAina]

19. On the roof of one of his Cadillacs

[Kurovski]

24. DUzy!

It's his wife's Caddy, but we know he paid for it. Staying home and raising kids doesn't warrant a check, according to Mr. Mittens.


"I wanted to increase the work requirement," said Romney. "I said, for instance, that even if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, 'Well that's heartless.' And I said, 'No, no, I'm willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. It'll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'"

Regardless of its level of dignity, for Ann Romney, her work raising her children would not have fulfilled her work requirement



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/15/mitt-romney-mothers-welfare-moms_n_1426113.html

[Joe Bacon]

23. He's a Ma$ter Bull$hitter!

In all my life, I've never seen a bigger bullshitter than R-Money!

[Kurovski]

25. He's a latter day Joseph Smith Jr.

[RZM]

26. Interesting question

I talked about this with my RW libertarian father a couple months ago. He believes Romney probably is privately pretty moderate, but can't dare show it now. I didn't think so at first, but now I'm not so sure. The whole thing with the Mittster is that it's impossible to tell.

I thought the same thing about Edwards. He tacked left because he felt it was the best strategic move. I think that's the case with Rmoney. He's in it for the power, not the ideals.

[ellisonz]

27. The DU consensus is chameleon.

Think there's any hope for your father? Mine used to be a Republican but gave it up around the Clinton impeachment.

[RZM]

28. Nah, other way around

He was a liberal most of his life and gave it up for conservatism in the 90s. But at least he's a libertarian. He's an atheist, believes homosexuality is 100 percent biological and thinks weed and prostitution should be legal.

[ellisonz]

29. Could be worse...

[RZM]

30. True dat

I used tease him a lot about the Falwell types being on his side, especially since he's always been a militant atheist. He's admitted before that he's not happy about it, but that's the way the game goes. Everybody has their relatives they aren't proud of. Same thing goes for here too. But don't say that in GD

[ellisonz]

31. Amen.

Have you tried gifting him Dreams From My Father? Just an idea. I have some hillbilly relatives in Missoura I don't have contact with much.

[RZM]

32. LOL. No

But that would be kind of funny. He'd probably read it too. I haven't read it myself. Funny aside, he read Bob Shrum's memoir and told me Shrum admitted in it that he can neither type nor drive. That seems pretty implausible for a high-level strategist. But apparently it's in there.

[ellisonz]

33. Interesting.

It might work. He's a reader. You're ahead already! I mean if you're a libertarian with the we're all in our own boat attitude, the autobiography of Barack Obama is powerful stuff. Kinda like how the autobiographies of Benjamin Franklin and Frederick Douglas were very influential in their own times!

[RZM]

34. The problem there is Franklin, Obama, and Douglas are very different figures

Franklin was a polymath and founding father. Douglas was a former slave who rose to become a prominent figure. Obama is, well, a guy who made it in politics. While his presidency is historic, he really isn't. Not trying to offend anybody here, but he's just a dude who's really good at what he does. That just doesn't fit with the great historical figures. His presidency will go down as a great moment, but he's not going to go down as a great man. Just a good man, which he is. But good men are pretty common. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's a damn site from Douglas and Franklin.

[ellisonz]

35. They're all autobiographies that function...

...as Bildungsroman:

A Bildungsroman tells about the growing up or coming of age of a sensitive person who is looking for answers and experience. The genre evolved from folklore tales of a dunce or youngest son going out in the world to seek his fortune. Usually in the beginning of the story there is an emotional loss which makes the protagonist leave on his journey. In a Bildungsroman, the goal is maturity, and the protagonist achieves it gradually and with difficulty. The genre often features a main conflict between the main character and society. Typically, the values of society are gradually accepted by the protagonist and he is ultimately accepted into society – the protagonist's mistakes and disappointments are over. In some works, the protagonist is able to reach out and help others after having achieved maturity.

Also:

His presidency will go down as a great moment, but he's not going to go down as a great man.

It's a little early to make a judgment like that IMHO - the man is only 50 years old. I think your analysis there reflects how jaded we've become about the very possibility of "great men" being existent in our own age. You sir, are a skeptic!

[RZM]

36. I take your point

But how much can the man do as an ex-president? My prediction is that he'll be more of a Clinton than a Carter. Clinton has actually done a lot since his presidency, but he'll always be the 'Big Dawg' in the history books. Carter, however, has taken some interesting positions and done some notable stuff. He'll probably be known as much for his post-presidency life as for his presidency. The thing is, that's not too common. I don't see Obama writing books about Palestine. I see him being a strong Democrat and party poobah, a la Clinton. Hell, maybe we'll even seen 'Michelle 2020' posters eventually

But who knows, I could be surprised there.

[ellisonz]

37. I wouldn't apply the molds of the past...

...to the present necessarily. He'll be young yet when he leaves office. It will be interesting to see what happens after he takes down Romney.