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Related: About this forumFred Kaplan: Obama’s in a Jam on Syria
Obamas in a Jam on Syria
He has feeble international support, and he doesnt know what hes trying to accomplish.
By Fred Kaplan|Posted Friday, Aug. 30, 2013, at 4:42 PM
A "shot across the bow" is not a fleshed-out plan.
Photo by Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images
President Obama is in a huge jam on Syria, and its not clear how he gets out of it. The problem is twofold. First, he is preparing to take military action against Syria for the sole purpose of enforcing international law. Yet he has very little support from the organizationsor many members of those organizationsthat are charged with enforcing international law. If the point of the intervention is to uphold the civilized worlds long-held norms (in this case, norms against the use of chemical weapons), and if he cant persuade more than a couple other countries to go along, then he doesnt have a very potent case.
This is not a technical-legal question. Its central to the strategy and effectiveness of whatever sort of military action he might decide to launch. In his Aug. 28 PBS interview, Obama said that an attack, if he launched one, needed to send a pretty strong signal that Bashar al-Assads regime had better not do it againi.e., had better not launch any more chemical weapons. And yet if Assad doesnt see the world closing in on him, if he sees the attack as purely an American (or Western) campaign, against which he can mobilize the usual anti-American (or anti-Western) actors, then the signal is going to be pretty weak.
It must have come as a shock when the British Parliament voted down a motion to authorize military action, especially after Prime Minister David Cameron promised Obama that he would join an international coalition to punish Assad for his monstrous acts. Cameron may have thought the motion was a slam dunk. Not since 1782 has a British leader lost a war resolution (the last time was when Parliament decided, against the Kings urgings, to withdraw from the American Colonies). Its unclear whether this defeat reflects Camerons weakness or Britains abdication of a role in global politics. But its clear in retrospect that Obama should have lined up his ducks before letting his top aides all but announce that the cruise missiles were on their way.
French President François Hollande, who doesnt need his Parliaments approval for such things, has said he will join Obama in the war (the first time the two countries have allied in battle without Britain since they jointly fought against Britain in the American Revolution). The Germans are reluctant. The Arab League is wavering, as usual. (Silent support is about all one can expect, though the Saudis have lately been shipping lots of weapons to the rebels in southern Syria). The Turks? Unclear, though their support is crucial, since Turkey is one of the few countries that could claim self-defense, as it sits on Syrias northern border and would potentially face the fallout from a future chemical attack. And since its a member of NATO, Turkey could also invoke Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty (an attack on one member is an attack on all) to rally the other allies.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/08/obama_s_syria_crisis_he_and_john_kerry_need_a_better_plan_for_dealing_with.html
He has feeble international support, and he doesnt know what hes trying to accomplish.
By Fred Kaplan|Posted Friday, Aug. 30, 2013, at 4:42 PM
A "shot across the bow" is not a fleshed-out plan.
Photo by Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images
President Obama is in a huge jam on Syria, and its not clear how he gets out of it. The problem is twofold. First, he is preparing to take military action against Syria for the sole purpose of enforcing international law. Yet he has very little support from the organizationsor many members of those organizationsthat are charged with enforcing international law. If the point of the intervention is to uphold the civilized worlds long-held norms (in this case, norms against the use of chemical weapons), and if he cant persuade more than a couple other countries to go along, then he doesnt have a very potent case.
This is not a technical-legal question. Its central to the strategy and effectiveness of whatever sort of military action he might decide to launch. In his Aug. 28 PBS interview, Obama said that an attack, if he launched one, needed to send a pretty strong signal that Bashar al-Assads regime had better not do it againi.e., had better not launch any more chemical weapons. And yet if Assad doesnt see the world closing in on him, if he sees the attack as purely an American (or Western) campaign, against which he can mobilize the usual anti-American (or anti-Western) actors, then the signal is going to be pretty weak.
It must have come as a shock when the British Parliament voted down a motion to authorize military action, especially after Prime Minister David Cameron promised Obama that he would join an international coalition to punish Assad for his monstrous acts. Cameron may have thought the motion was a slam dunk. Not since 1782 has a British leader lost a war resolution (the last time was when Parliament decided, against the Kings urgings, to withdraw from the American Colonies). Its unclear whether this defeat reflects Camerons weakness or Britains abdication of a role in global politics. But its clear in retrospect that Obama should have lined up his ducks before letting his top aides all but announce that the cruise missiles were on their way.
French President François Hollande, who doesnt need his Parliaments approval for such things, has said he will join Obama in the war (the first time the two countries have allied in battle without Britain since they jointly fought against Britain in the American Revolution). The Germans are reluctant. The Arab League is wavering, as usual. (Silent support is about all one can expect, though the Saudis have lately been shipping lots of weapons to the rebels in southern Syria). The Turks? Unclear, though their support is crucial, since Turkey is one of the few countries that could claim self-defense, as it sits on Syrias northern border and would potentially face the fallout from a future chemical attack. And since its a member of NATO, Turkey could also invoke Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty (an attack on one member is an attack on all) to rally the other allies.
more...
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/08/obama_s_syria_crisis_he_and_john_kerry_need_a_better_plan_for_dealing_with.html
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Fred Kaplan: Obama’s in a Jam on Syria (Original Post)
flpoljunkie
Aug 2013
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scooter rider
(80 posts)1. Well isn't that something.
I wonder if it was a white guy in the White House would they be lining up in support?
Think about it.
Has any European power ever had a person of color as a leader?
indepat
(20,899 posts)2. When one is surrounded by a gaggle of neocons, one just might get advice that war is the first and
only option. Besides the MIC can be further bloated with corresponding cuts to the social safety net, a clear win-win for the neocons.