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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:46 PM Sep 2013

Trayvon Martin medical examiner claims prosecutors intentionally lost case


Dr. Shiping Bao, the Volusia County medical examiner who handled teenager Trayvon Martin’s body after he was shot by George Zimmerman in February of 2012, claims that the prosecution team in the case were biased against the African-American teen and intentionally lost. Furthermore, Bao said that his attorney is poised to sue the state of Florida for $100 million, according to WFTV Channel 9.

Bao’s attorney told WFTV that the medical examiner was wrongfully terminated last week by the county. According to the former assistant coroner, his autopsy results showed that it was impossible for Martin to have been on top of George Zimmerman when the gunman pulled the trigger.







http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/11/trayvon-martin-medical-examiner-claims-prosecutors-intentionally-lost-case/
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Trayvon Martin medical examiner claims prosecutors intentionally lost case (Original Post) UCmeNdc Sep 2013 OP
Not surprising, seems like the whole trial was a farce. lumpy Sep 2013 #1
You said it wryter2000 Sep 2013 #16
I had the feeling it was rigged. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #33
I hope he wins and I live here. Our governor steals about that much annually. russspeakeasy Sep 2013 #2
Institutional racism is alive and well. The TEA BAGGERS Lint Head Sep 2013 #3
I believe him and I hope he prevails gopiscrap Sep 2013 #4
Intentionally lost the case? wild bird Sep 2013 #5
uh..no.... I can make a very strong argument that this case was intentionally lost... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #22
I made that call....I kept saying that I thought the prosecution sandbagged. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #6
Everyone falls in the same trap in Central Florida. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #9
Agree... ewagner Sep 2013 #13
Let this be the beginning of opening up this county's Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #7
Interesting. I hope this case develops and leads to some reform. nt NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #8
Hmmm progressoid Sep 2013 #10
Well... ChaoticTrilby Sep 2013 #14
duh heaven05 Sep 2013 #11
I have often wondered about that Skittles Sep 2013 #12
I don't believe the prosecutors for that county were involved. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #34
I was saying this at the time.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #15
Bloody fingers Sanddog42 Sep 2013 #17
No bruises or cuts on Martin's hands - one tiny abrasion csziggy Sep 2013 #39
The special prosecutor seemed awfully Ilsa Sep 2013 #18
I missed that. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #35
Her strutting "victory" appearance after Zimmerman acquittal csziggy Sep 2013 #40
Damn I want to drop her in a dark hole after hearing less than 2 minutes. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #41
So somebody should be under arrest for Perjury CanonRay Sep 2013 #19
I think from the get go the good ole' boys network was protecting George davidpdx Sep 2013 #21
They weren't protecting Zimmerman Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #23
I don't know, I have to wonder if he got preferential treatment davidpdx Sep 2013 #24
his dad was a glorified legal clerk, not a judge that tried cases. dionysus Sep 2013 #25
^^ The Blue Brotherhood, indeed ^^ Myrina Sep 2013 #29
There was one that pushed for prosecution but they shot him down. LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #36
That will never happen. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #27
Sounds like the good ole' boys network pulled one off davidpdx Sep 2013 #20
My guess is his daddy's connections. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #26
What connections? ksoze Sep 2013 #42
I said that during the Rachel Jenteal testimony. Myrina Sep 2013 #28
I thought John2 Sep 2013 #30
I had an issue with the prosecution not pointing out that the gun was behind GZ LiberalFighter Sep 2013 #37
Floriduh's corruption goes all the way to the top. polichick Sep 2013 #31
Mark Geragos was saying that all through alsame Sep 2013 #32
I expect Zimmerman is sleeping very welll FloridaJudy Sep 2013 #38
the bullet entered Martin’s Back (Bombshell) UCmeNdc Sep 2013 #43

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
3. Institutional racism is alive and well. The TEA BAGGERS
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:53 PM
Sep 2013

are directly responsible along with every right wing fuck wad that breaths oxygen.

 

wild bird

(421 posts)
5. Intentionally lost the case?
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:54 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think so, but they were so incompetent that it appeared that way.

This guy is mad that the state fired him and he's lashing out in anger.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. uh..no.... I can make a very strong argument that this case was intentionally lost...
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 08:52 PM
Sep 2013

They just kept up appearances and did just enough to LOOK like they were trying...If the SA's office is that incompetent, then their conviction rate for all cases would be around 0%

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
6. I made that call....I kept saying that I thought the prosecution sandbagged.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Sep 2013

As insurance that gave that statement of the law to the jury that included the stand your ground language even though it wasn't a stand your ground case. The lone female mixed race juror keeps appearing on tv and appealing for her own forgiveness because of what she thought "was the law" as it was read to her. In her last interview....I heard her mention that she knew the other women on the jury were married to lawyers. I think they also bamboozled her with their "knowledge" of the law.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
9. Everyone falls in the same trap in Central Florida.
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 04:59 PM
Sep 2013

Lawyers around here are selective of their interpretation of the law. Some just make it up as they go along.

progressoid

(49,952 posts)
10. Hmmm
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 05:17 PM
Sep 2013

He's suing for wrongful termination right? Was he fired because of the Zimmerman case? What's the connection?

ChaoticTrilby

(211 posts)
14. Well...
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:33 PM
Sep 2013

From the article:

Gary maintained that Bao was scapegoated and wrongly fired from the medical examiner’s office because of his disagreements with how the investigation was conducted.

"He was in essence told to zip his lips. ‘Shut up. Don’t say those things,’" Gary said.


He thinks he was fired for having these autopsy results. If that's the case, then that frightens me. If not, then he may just be lashing out about losing his job, trying to get attention. But that's what his claim is, take it or leave it. Seems that this is far from over.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. duh
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:13 PM
Sep 2013

no new information here. Hope he sheds some light under those rocks that the DA's lives under.

LiberalFighter

(50,795 posts)
34. I don't believe the prosecutors for that county were involved.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 12:21 PM
Sep 2013

They appointed special prosecutors from the state to do the job.

Sanddog42

(117 posts)
17. Bloody fingers
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 06:53 PM
Sep 2013

I didn't watch the trial, but could anyone who did tell me whether there were any bruises or cuts found on Trayvon Martin's hands, which there would have to have been if he had beaten Z-man.

What about powder burns on Martin's clothes?

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
39. No bruises or cuts on Martin's hands - one tiny abrasion
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 04:27 PM
Sep 2013

The abrasion was only about 1/8" long, not likely caused by beating another person, IMO.

There were powder burns on Martin's clothes and stippling on his skin from the gunpowder.

The telling part to me was the bullet path was straight - not at an angle as might be expected if Zimmerman had been underneath with Martin straddling him.

http://www.wftv.com/documents/2013/jul/05/pdf-trayvon-martin-autopsy-report/

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
18. The special prosecutor seemed awfully
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 07:01 PM
Sep 2013

happy about the acquittal. I don't remember if that was her title, but she looked ready to pop open a bottle of champagne after GZ was released.

CanonRay

(14,088 posts)
19. So somebody should be under arrest for Perjury
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 07:12 PM
Sep 2013

or Obstruction of Justice. Or both. I think the Feds need to get involved in the Sanford PD and DA offices.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. I think from the get go the good ole' boys network was protecting George
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 07:20 PM
Sep 2013

He wasn't arrested, his statement was taken and he was released. The bullshit about Zimmerman getting the crap kicked out of him. I think it was several people who conspired to obstruct the case.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. They weren't protecting Zimmerman
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 08:55 PM
Sep 2013

they were protecting the COPS who treated the case with complete indifference until the national media came sniffing around...

If Zimmerman was convicted, then an already humiliated police force gets a whole lot more questions asked of their professionalism...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
24. I don't know, I have to wonder if he got preferential treatment
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 10:41 PM
Sep 2013

from the very beginning. I have no proof of that, but it seems like a cover-up took place because of who his father is.

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
25. his dad was a glorified legal clerk, not a judge that tried cases.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 02:40 AM
Sep 2013

I don't think his dad had that much power.

who knows, though, I don't know much about how things work down there in FLA.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
29. ^^ The Blue Brotherhood, indeed ^^
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 09:37 AM
Sep 2013

Something seriously fucked up is going on in that entire area. Someone yesterday suggested maybe the PD et al were involved in running drugs and Georgie knew about it or was part of it, and that's why they really needed to make all the attention go away.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
27. That will never happen.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 06:06 AM
Sep 2013

The DoJ said they were " investigating". And never heard from them again.

Its a done deal, another murderer walking free.

Meanwhile, innocent people are being put to death.

Yays!!!1

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. Sounds like the good ole' boys network pulled one off
Wed Sep 11, 2013, 07:18 PM
Sep 2013

Gee I wonder who could have helped George pull that off.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
28. I said that during the Rachel Jenteal testimony.
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 09:36 AM
Sep 2013

They weren't trying to get a conviction, the whole thing was a show because the grand jury 'ordered' it.
Hell, I could have presented a stronger case for the prosecution & I never made it through law school.

They all just wanted it to go away. There is some serious corruption and crony bullshit going on down in FLA.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
30. I thought
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 12:00 PM
Sep 2013

the prosecution and Judge gave more liberty to the defense, than the prosecution. What people are not saying, is a cover up. It is kinda strange all the white women were associated with lawyers on the jury and the one minority women wasn't. There would have been a hung jury if I was on it. I think it is crazy in the first place to believe a 28 year old man weighing over 40 pounds than a kid just turned 17, would get man handled. That would make Martin some kind of stud or beast which was racist in itself.

This man had a gun on him at that and followed this kid at night. It was disingenuous for Zimmerman's team to insinuate he had shown no animosity or hostility at Martin during the initial 911 call. Yet people just took the defense's excuse as casual. Zimmerman also had a violent past and criminal record, the judge called just run of the mill. Now how many of you have been accused of domestic violence or assaulting an officer when you are an adult?

That is not the same as writing on school walls or smoking pot and being caught with female jewelry. Do you know how many teenagers fit that profile? Even Mitt Romney had a worst teenage or school boy profile than Martin. He was a bully. Bush committed youthful indiscretion. Zimmerman had victims, but the victims of Martin was only hearsay, except Zimmerman and Martin was the one ended up dead.

LiberalFighter

(50,795 posts)
37. I had an issue with the prosecution not pointing out that the gun was behind GZ
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 12:27 PM
Sep 2013

So how the hell was TM suppose to be able to see it if GZ was laying on it?

alsame

(7,784 posts)
32. Mark Geragos was saying that all through
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 12:12 PM
Sep 2013

the trial. I caught a few nights of him on AC 360 and he would point out prosecution mistakes or missteps.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/blogs/tv-guy/os-george-zimmerman-is-state-throwing-case-20130703,0,3015158.post

"I think they're throwing the case," attorney Mark Geragos announced Tuesday night on Anderson Cooper's CNN show, "Self-Defense or Murder?" The discussion on that program, which airs at 10 weeknights, is fascinating. This special Cooper series is running for just the duration of the trial, but it certainly is one of the strongest programs in cable news these days.

But Geragos had ranted about the performance of Dr. Valerie Rao, a medical examiner for the prosecution. "This woman is abysmal," Geragos said. "She's like the worst defense expert normally that you would get, and somehow the prosecution thinks this is helpful?"

<snip>

Geragos also ripped the way prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda questioned Chris Serino, the lead detective in the Zimmerman case. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin.

Geragos' take: "Then he [de la Rionda] said, 'Do you remember when in the comics they had that little bubble over their head?' Seriously, didn't you cringe? Didn't you really think at that point, this prosecutor has basically lost his mind? Because I suspect they're just throwing the case."

FloridaJudy

(9,465 posts)
38. I expect Zimmerman is sleeping very welll
Thu Sep 12, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

Most sociopaths/psychopaths do, having no conscience. But I hope the cops, the judge, the members of that jury, and the prosecution are suffering at least some remorse for having allowed him to continue to threaten others.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
43. the bullet entered Martin’s Back (Bombshell)
Sat Sep 14, 2013, 05:35 PM
Sep 2013

According to the former assistant coroner, the results of Martin’s autopsy clearly showed that, despite Zimmerman’s statements regarding their altercation, there was no feasible way for Martin to have been on top of Zimmerman when the gun was fired, because the bullet entered Martin’s back.
Bao claims that the prosecution never actually asked him the questions that were crucial to the success in the case, and that he changed his opinion from the time he initially examined Martin and the time he was on the stand. Bao and his attorney say they believe he was fired for questioning the way the case was handled, and possibly for not going long with the desired narrative.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/14/1238828/-Trayvon-Martin-bombshell

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